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« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2005, 12:53:14 PM »
Moral equivalence. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2005, 12:54:54 PM »
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 your saying that murder is just something a kid may do cause they are to dumb to know better.


That is crap. Some things even kids know are bad. If you didnt know murder was bad as a kid there was something very wrong with you.



So you are proposing to let the children to drive drink, vote and smoke,  at 11 too?,  I mean they know well enough to be responsible  right???
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« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2005, 01:04:39 PM »
This punk should be EXECUTED!!!!!!!

Trell, think for just a moment with me here........Imagine this bus driver was.........your mom.

Now how do you feel?

No matter what the age of the MURDERER, this innocent woman who was just trying to provide for her family and help teach these kids a better path against breaking rules of tabbaco is now dead!

Why would anyone think so much about the MURDERER? Lets think about the INNOCENT VICTOM and then make a decision.

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« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2005, 01:11:12 PM »
Trell's dancing.  Whether he's a decent troller or supremely dense remains to be determined.

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« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2005, 01:14:06 PM »
At 11 I knew smoking was for idiots.

I knew drinking and driving was for idiots and wrong.

But none of that is the point.


The point is kids are kids and they do dumb ****, but most still know even when they are doing the dumb **** that it is wrong.


So your saying you would want this kid, to live next to you after he gets at out at cause that s how kids are treated who brake laws?

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« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2005, 01:17:42 PM »
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Trell's dancing.  Whether he's a decent troller or supremely dense remains to be determined.


Dancing?  i have not changed my opinion Yet.

I have a hard time believeing that we should end a childs life for doing something soo stupid. I believe that children should be treated as such, and if given a chance to reach adulthood.  would look back on this and regret his disision for the rest of his life..

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« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2005, 01:22:08 PM »
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At 11 I knew smoking was for idiots.

I knew drinking and driving was for idiots and wrong.

But none of that is the point.


The point is kids are kids and they do dumb ****, but most still know even when they are doing the dumb **** that it is wrong.


So your saying you would want this kid, to live next to you after he gets at out at cause that s how kids are treated who brake laws?


I commend you for being the same since you have been born with out any changes.
But I believe you are the exception.  I believe most children to wrong things.  make mistakes.  and even do bad things. that some how there child mind justified.  Not every one is as perfect as you were at the age of 11.

I would have no problem if he was released after his time..  I do not think they should get. a get out of jail free card.  but for child murderers,  they should be spending a few years being looked at a juvenile prison.  to try to be helped...  not locked away and exicuted......


There was a juvenile place near me when I was growing up and the kids when to the same middle and high school as I did.  but the one thing I saw there.  was the badasses that showed up in middle school.  the ones that would start fights for no reason, then just being for fun.  ended up being good guys by the time they graduated...  not saying it is 100%  but I believe children change when out of the environment.  where the adults would not.
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« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2005, 01:25:03 PM »
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« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2005, 01:31:15 PM »
i never stole a shopping cart, i only borrowed them with the full intention of bringing them back, i just forgot.

the murdered driver had two little kids, they now have no mother.

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« Reply #39 on: March 03, 2005, 01:32:42 PM »
Trelll
 I have changed, dont be a fool on purpose it wont help you win an argument.

I did stupid **** as a kid.  When I was doing Ilegal stupid **** I knew it was ilegal and did not want to get caught.


I grew out of that for the most part.


Kids are not stupid, most know right from wrong. Some things we can n ot let slide. Murder over not being able to chew snuff is one of them.

If he did not know what he was doing was wrong then he is a mental defect and will prolly never be worth a damn for anything.


Are you really saying that at age 11 you did not know right from wrong or that murder was wrong?

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« Reply #40 on: March 03, 2005, 01:40:34 PM »
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 I have changed, dont be a fool on purpose it wont help you win an argument.

I did stupid **** as a kid.  When I was doing Ilegal stupid **** I knew it was ilegal and did not want to get caught.

I grew out of that for the most part.

Kids are not stupid, most know right from wrong. Some things we can n ot let slide. Murder over not being able to chew snuff is one of them.

If he did not know what he was doing was wrong then he is a mental defect and will prolly never be worth a damn for anything.


Are you really saying that at age 11 you did not know right from wrong or that murder was wrong?



 I grew out of that for the most part.

That is the point i was trying to make.  You grew out of them.  WHY????  Becasue you became an adult.  You know the effects of what you do.

As a child  you do stuff.  you may even know it is wrong  or illegal,  but you do it anyways.  WHY becasue you did not think that far ahead.  So tell me again.  You grew out of doing the stupid things that kids do??  or were you just a criminal as a child, and deserve to burn for those choices..

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« Reply #41 on: March 03, 2005, 01:43:59 PM »
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I grew out of that for the most part.

That is the point i was trying to make.  You grew out of them.  WHY????  Becasue you became an adult.  You know the effects of what you do.

As a child  you do stuff.  you may even know it is wrong  or illegal,  but you do it anyways.  WHY becasue you did not think that far ahead.  So tell me again.  You grew out of doing the stupid things that kids do??  or were you just a criminal as a child, and deserve to burn for those choices..


So murdering someone is "a stupid thing kids do"?

You're comparing taking someone's life, depriving children of their mother forever, with stealing lawn gnomes and smoking pot.

I believe you realize how ignorant your argument is by this point, you are just too obstinate to set it down.

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« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2005, 01:44:24 PM »
Again with this?  "There's no difference between murder and having a beer at 19."  

You can punish both differently, champ.  No one here is arguing that kids should be allowed to vote because they should be executed for murder.

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« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2005, 01:45:02 PM »
You still missing the point, murder is wrong, you dont comit it cause you  are not thinking far enough ahead.


EVEN as a kid.


I had thoughts of murder when I was a kid. There were several other kids I wanted to kill. I could have done soo easily in Jr high since I could had very easy access to guns.


I didn't cause I knew it was WRONG!


I am sure most normal kids are the same as I was.

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« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2005, 01:57:03 PM »
Ahh you you did not grow out of doing those things??.  backpedeling  now..

My link is whether it is stealing gargen gnomes,  shoplifting.  or even murder.  what makes you do the small things that you claim to grew out of as a kid that you dont do not.  Becasue your brain has finaly mutured enough to compleatly understand.

I am not saying drinking a bear is the same as murder you dumb bellybutton I am saying it