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« Reply #45 on: March 07, 2005, 10:01:21 AM »
Toad, if I had just gotten released and then my own "team" started shooting at me I might be a little pissed off...especially when people DIED in the car.  I think she is wrong in her assertion that the US did it on purpose.  That was NOT the point of my post, which was more directed at those people saying things like "Well, if we did want to kill her she'd be dead" or "She's a commie, so it's okay for us to shoot at her" or "BLAME AMERIKA it's all our fault".  Newsflash....it was the fault of Americans.

I haven't seen one post that says "It looks like we screwed up and I hope things are being done to ensure this doesn't happen again."

That is my "good point".
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« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2005, 10:07:46 AM »
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LOL!

Calm and rational?

You've already donned the tin foil hat!



It was the second shooter from the grassy knoll, right Naso? The one secretly sent by the Illuminati and the CFR?


Jesus, Toad, the irony just flew over your head, uh?

I will use more cinical and easy words:

Both countries will investigate, and since neither of the two will be happy to admit to have made the mistake, whoever has made it, they will both blame the gult in the loss of information in the area between the two respective secret services, saving the known party involved (the Italian secret service agents in the car, and the soldiers of the patrol, or the checkpoint), and blaming the responsability somewhere in the unknow world of interalliance communications, practically, nobody.

Everyone is happy, move along.

I've been clear?

No tiny foil hat, just realpolitik.

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« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2005, 10:21:55 AM »
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it was the fault of Americans.

I haven't seen one post that says "It looks like we screwed up and I hope things are being done to ensure this doesn't happen again."

That is my "good point".


Total BS, Curv.

You were not there and do not know what took place.

If someone decides to commit suicide by running at a cop waving a knife, is the cops fault?

I guess so in your assertion.

If they ran the checkpoint, or committed negligent acts that put them in harms way in a freaking combat zone, they are to blame.

No one knows what happened yet so please don't rush to point fingers.

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« Reply #48 on: March 07, 2005, 10:22:34 AM »
So why did they pay ransom for a reporter who knew the risk when she went there?   From what I have read she works for a communist news paper and was sent to dig up dirt on coalition forces.  Her paper, (I assume)  paid the ransom knowing that this would pay for itself in stories.  

It smells bad, to twist this to an American screw up is missing the point.  The bottom line is, They paid terrorist for kidnaping their reporter.

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« Reply #49 on: March 07, 2005, 10:24:20 AM »
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So why did they pay ransom for a reporter who knew the risk when she went there?   From what I have read she works for a communist news paper and was sent to dig up dirt on coalition forces.  Her paper, (I assume)  paid the ransom knowing that this would pay for itself in stories.  

It smells bad, to twist this to an American screw up is missing the point.  The bottom line is, They paid terrorist for kiddnaping their reporter.


And the money they paid will go into buying bullets and bombs to kill American solidiers and Iraqi Civilians.

Maybe it will pay for the weapons used to kidnap another Italian Journalist. Ironic, huh.

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« Reply #50 on: March 07, 2005, 10:24:41 AM »
I am going to jump to conclusions without knowing the full story.
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« Reply #51 on: March 07, 2005, 10:25:21 AM »
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I am going to jump to conclusions without knowing the full story.
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**** you dip****. I'm going to defend the US's actions without knowing the full story, you yurapein ****!
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« Reply #52 on: March 07, 2005, 10:26:16 AM »

-SW

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« Reply #53 on: March 07, 2005, 10:27:26 AM »
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And the money they paid will go into buying bullets and bombs to kill American solidiers and Iraqi Civilians.

Maybe it will pay for the weapons used to kidnap another Italian Journalist. Ironic, huh.



My gut feeling is this was planned out and this lady knew it.

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« Reply #54 on: March 07, 2005, 10:29:25 AM »
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My gut feeling is this was planned out and this lady knew it.



Huh?

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« Reply #55 on: March 07, 2005, 10:30:25 AM »
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Total BS, Curv.

You were not there and do not know what took place.


Neither you.

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No one knows what happened yet so please don't rush to point fingers.


In the same post YOU are pointing your finger.

Raise the hand:

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If someone decides to commit suicide by running at a cop waving a knife, is the cops fault?


Point the finger:

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If they ran the checkpoint, or committed negligent acts that put them in harms way in a freaking combat zone, they are to blame.


see?

Have to go, cya later all.

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« Reply #56 on: March 07, 2005, 10:35:00 AM »
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Newsflash....it was the fault of Americans.

 


Ah, ok. Thanks, Curv. Can you give me a link to the final reports of the investigating parties?

It's a relief to know that the incident has been completely investigated and everything is now known.
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« Reply #57 on: March 07, 2005, 10:35:28 AM »
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Huh?


I think, (and I may be wrong) she was in on her own kidnapping..

just a feeling

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« Reply #58 on: March 07, 2005, 10:35:56 AM »
You miss the "if" in his post Naso. It's the "big if" everyone talks about.
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« Reply #59 on: March 07, 2005, 10:46:39 AM »
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You miss the "if" in his post Naso. It's the "big if" everyone talks about.


Give him a break. English is not his native language.

Besides, Curval already solved the case...

Nothing more to see here.