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« Reply #105 on: March 07, 2005, 10:01:19 PM »
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Greentail... please tell me that you said this in a sincere effort to defend Reagan.

That would so rule.


Defend Reagan? He should have been hung from a streetlamp in DC, along with George Bush, Casper Weinberger and Oliver North for treason.

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« Reply #106 on: March 07, 2005, 10:07:58 PM »
damn... you sure know how to kill the mood.

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« Reply #107 on: March 07, 2005, 10:16:38 PM »
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SOB I do realise that.  That is precisley what I am demonstrating..just how stupid one can look by using that ridiculous word.  I added the misspelling of "death" to add even greater emphasis.

"If she had been intentionally targeted, she would not be here to complain that she was intentionally targeted."

Saying this almost 3 pages into this thread is somewhat redundant, do you agree with me on that too?


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« Reply #108 on: March 07, 2005, 10:54:07 PM »
The guy 9on Fox, John Gibson, had an interesting take on this today....found his write up...

Rush to Judgment

Monday, March 07, 2005

By John Gibson

Giuliana Sgrena (search), the Italian journalist hostage, is now saying that American troops shot at her car on purpose trying to kill her.

The White House says the claim is absurd.

In addition, let me point out some other absurdities:

First, Ms. Sgrena is from a communist newspaper called Il Manifesto (search). So how many of you think Il Manifesto sent her to Iraq to report on how well Iraq is doing after its first free election? None of you? What a smart bunch. Of course it didn't.

She is an ardent anti-American who was going to Iraq to do a hatchet job on the American effort there and — silly her — she didn't realize the Iraqi insurgent kidnapers didn't really care if she thought they were noble freedom fighters. They just wanted her sorry bones to ransom.

What's more, she now admits they treated her well. Gee, now, that's a surprise. When we all saw that tape of Ms. Sgrena begging for her life with her hands held in prayer — imagine a reporter for a communist paper praying — everybody thought things must really be rough. Now it turns out they told her what to say and how to say it and she acted her part.

Also, The Washington Times is reporting Monday that the $6 million ransom was not Italian government money, but personal funds of the media mogul Silvio Berlusconi — who just happens to be the prime minister.

So what do you think the chances are that Ms. Sgrena cooperated with her captors to squeeze some cash out of what she would regard as a capitalist pig, the media mogul and prime minister Mr. Berlusconi?

Think I'm stretching there?

In any case, she's now blaming the Americans for shooting up her car which tried to speed through a checkpoint.

I'm blaming her for thinking she could wander around Iraq unharmed because she is a sympathizer with the insurgents, then for getting herself snatched, then for getting the prime minister to put up his own money, which led to the death of one of the Italian intelligence agents who came to save her sorry rear end.

She's right — it is disgusting. I am disgusted with her.

That's My Word.

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« Reply #109 on: March 08, 2005, 12:08:07 AM »
Good read Lepaul,

Too bad it's written by somone with @fox in their email because it will probably be completly ignored or written off as a "smear campaign"  Truth or not.

It will be interesting to see if this is picked up on by any other networks.

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« Reply #110 on: March 08, 2005, 05:11:28 AM »
Highly trained motivated and pumped on speed?



:rolleyes: ;)

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« Reply #111 on: March 08, 2005, 06:50:55 AM »
I had to be seen to agree with someone on Fox but he's right.  

The facts are obvious, the Italians got their woman released and were heading to the Airport flushed with success. Have you seen how Italians drive normally? They must have been driving a little fast.  

There's an American patrol on the road. It's a dangerous road they expect trouble, a car appears, moving fast.  The shooting starts.  One man is killed out of four? people in the car. Deliberate? of course not.  A mistake? of course.  

It's a tragedy for the family of the Italian agent.  It's a gift for the Communists, now the focus is not on the terrorists but on the Americans. They are the bad guys.  

Ms Sgrena must be delighted.

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« Reply #112 on: March 08, 2005, 08:19:41 AM »
skydancer... not all the brits are like you right?  The ones I met seemed ok.

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« Reply #113 on: March 08, 2005, 08:52:15 AM »
LePaul...was Mr. Gibson there?  He saw the car speeding through a roadblock the Italians state didn't exist?

Wow...amazing.

Toad...it isn't me who has it all figured out...it's LePaul and Mr. Gibson.

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« Reply #114 on: March 08, 2005, 09:00:29 AM »
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You are right, I dont agree with those paying ransom. We are waging war so we dont have to pay ransom.

Those ppl have paid a ransom so italy is funding terrorism, so that accident is not so terrible? Right? :rolleyes:

The second sentence, just an *******'s sentence. Even you can understand what has been censored.



I reread what I wrote yesterday and I agree.  It was an *******'s sentence.  

I won't take it down though because I said it and should look like an bellybutton for saying it.  I appologize.

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« Reply #115 on: March 08, 2005, 09:08:01 AM »
Curv, this whole thread is premature expoundulation.
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« Reply #116 on: March 08, 2005, 09:22:33 AM »
Some will fall in love with life and drink it from a fountain that is pouring like an avalanche coming down the mountain

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« Reply #117 on: March 08, 2005, 10:03:17 AM »
Not to be a jerk here, but quite frankly I can's tell the difference between Italians and Arabs. They are both swarthy, dark featured and hairy...

And the men are even worse.

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« Reply #118 on: March 08, 2005, 10:10:27 AM »
Mosgood and others,

you cant really understand how bad many italians (me included) felt when we realized that by freeing the hostage paying 1,000,000 Euros we financed bandits and got an high police officer dead. Actually, we know you'll going to protect your soldiers no matter what they did. So we'll probably never know what happened.

Our Prime Minister has not the courage to tell italians that this is not a peacekeeping mission. Actually it is war. And during wars you should not pay to get hostages back, you should search for bandits and kill them. Its all absurd.

Moreover, reading silly things about italian driving style, lack of coordination by italian officers and knowing that we'll never know what happened just drove me crazy.

Thats why I am so pissed off. I apologize if my words sounded so harsh.

P.S.: Airhead, hmmm sure it is air and not a fart ?:rofl
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« Reply #119 on: March 08, 2005, 10:17:00 AM »
Btw... the Intelligence officer that was killed had balls of brass to protect his charge like that.