Author Topic: Guns don't hurt people (Read 923 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #45 on:** March 11, 2005, 08:58:43 AM »

Ok... I leave guns on the counter or nightstand loaded... hammer down on a loaded chamber.. I have two cats ( a legacy from my daughter living with me and now my grand daughter).

The cats are evil. they try to trip me at the top of the stairs in the dark.. they shut the door half way so that I will run into the edge in the dark.... they have tried to pick up the gun to shoot me but it is too heavy.

A friend of mine got shot in the head (glancing blow from a 38) in a " barter transaction" way back when. Blood everywhere and lots of excitement as we extricated ourselves from the bad barter situation.

At the hospital they instantly recognized the wound as a gunshot wound and so... the story was that he was looking at the rifling to determine if it was left or right and he cocked the gun to see counter or counterclockwise rotation and his finger slipped blah blah blah.... weak... but better than the cat idea I think..

Yep beet... it was a grip safety... the friggin 1911 is a behive of safeties. Has an inertia firing pin too

Old guns are different... old single actions for instance rest the hammer nose rightr on a live round if you load six... very dangerous... all the oldtimers knew it but were still tempted to carry six...

I like safeties that are seamless and require no thought to use... automatic ones.

lazs

beet1e · « **Reply #46 on:** March 11, 2005, 09:05:20 AM »

What's an inertia firing pin?

lazs2 · « **Reply #47 on:** March 11, 2005, 09:12:48 AM »

basicly... the firing pin is too short to reach the pimer of the loaded cartrige when the hammer is down on it. the only way that it can fire is if the hammer hits it so hard that it is propelled past flush with the frame.. A drop (sudden stop of the gun) will do the same thing.... gun stops, firing pin contiues on to strike primer... strike hard enough and gun goes bang. some, like late Kimbers even go further in that there is a firing pin block that makes the inertia firing pin imobile until the trigger is depressed and the block is lowered.

Soo.. late 1911's.... grip safety.... inertia firing pin... firing pin block... and.. manual safety lever.

lazs

Martlet · « **Reply #48 on:** March 11, 2005, 09:15:41 AM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
What's an inertia firing pin?

The firing pin is the same length or slightly shorter than the breech block. It travels forward under it's own energy after it's struck by the hammer, rather than the hammer actually pushing it forward into the primer.

Thus, when the hammer is decocked, the pin doesn't rest on the primer.

EDIT: What laz said.

Curval · « **Reply #49 on:** March 11, 2005, 10:15:00 AM »

"Curval, the reason that idiot shot himself in the foot is because A.) he was too ignorant to realize the weight of a loaded magazine in a Glock 19, B) the UNMISTAKEABLE sound of a round chambering, C) he put his finger in the trigger guard."

..and this is the type of person teaching a room full of people gun saftey? And you wonder why I have reservations about guns being legal here?

Did you notice the man getting up to leave who had a baby in his arms? Can't say I blame him.

I'm curious as to where the bullet actually ended up? Classroom/lecture halls like that usually have very smooth hard floor surfaces...I think there were some lucky people in that room given that it hit him in the foot...had it hit the ground only it could easily have ricoched (sp?) into the attendees. Even that idiot recognised that fact by immediately asking if everyone was okay.

Do you think the bullet was in his foot still?

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #50 on:** March 11, 2005, 10:36:59 AM »

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Did you notice the man getting up to leave who had a baby in his arms? Can't say I blame him.

Not to mention that they all probably suffered immediate hearing damage from a gunshot inside a closed room. Especially the infant.