Author Topic: MA is dead? (7:15CDT) (Read 2257 times)

Slash27 · « **Reply #30 on:** March 17, 2005, 04:21:24 PM »

They think they are gods gift to virtual flying. Even while they vulch you they acuse you of destroing the game.

True, I just belivee that most CT "regulars" arent that way.( not all but most) But they dont burn up the text buffer telling you they arent a butthead.

" get out of your uber p40"

That one always makes me laugh:D

bj229r · « **Reply #31 on:** March 17, 2005, 07:29:23 PM »

I try CT now and agin when rooks are gettin ganged off yet anothermap ---invariably, there are about 15-20 guys, 3/4 of whom are orbiting at 20k, DAMNED determined to have an alt advantage on their next fight....yawn. I have more fun in H2H, if i can find a non-easy mode room

Slash27 · « **Reply #32 on:** March 17, 2005, 07:47:21 PM »

invariably, there are about 15-20 guys, 3/4 of whom are orbiting at 20k, DAMNED determined to have an alt advantage on their next fight....yawn. I have more fun in H2H, if i can find a non-easy mode room

Thats a load of crap

bj229r · « **Reply #33 on:** March 17, 2005, 07:53:56 PM »

Concise, intelligent, thoughtful, informative...to the point...i like that.

Widewing · « **Reply #34 on:** March 17, 2005, 09:36:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Slash27
invariably, there are about 15-20 guys, 3/4 of whom are orbiting at 20k, DAMNED determined to have an alt advantage on their next fight....yawn. I have more fun in H2H, if i can find a non-easy mode room

Thats a load of crap

I dropped in last night for a bit. I found numerous fighters well above me and I was at 12k. Now, there were a lot of non-CT regulars in there, so I can't comment beyond that simple observation.

What I did see that I didn't like was the overbearing text police. I sat in a tower for ten minutes and observed that some text discussions were blunt, sometimes even a bit contentious. I didn't see any swearing, but there was some complaining about being vulched and the like. What bothered me was the constant intervention of the CT admin guys warning players about their discussions, and the overuse of blue "God text", even for conversations. One guy was complaining a lot on the 200 channel, and he was told to either "knock it off or leave".

That was a bit over the top gents. That guy may be annoying, but his $15 buys him the right to complain, as long as he's not abusing other players. If people don't want to read his whining, they can squelch him. Besides, he's not hurting anyone but himself by establishing a reputation as a cry baby.

And what about those fighters that were enabled, but not listed in the MOTD? I saw SpitIXs and P-47D-11s.....

My regards,

Widewing

Grits · « **Reply #35 on:** March 17, 2005, 09:40:21 PM »

The only respect that the CT might make you a better pilot is being forced to fly a plane that is not competitive in the MA, and you learn something from it. If you can learn to kill in '42-'43 planes from practicing in the CT, you will have a better understanding of getting the most out of what you are in. Lots of people who are several steps above average in the MA do fly the early planes, so no, you dont have to fly in the CT to accomplish the same thing, but its somewhat easier to learn that if there is no chance of running into a Temp in your Hurricane MkI.

I cringe every time I see one of the CT sandbox bullies abusing someone who is just trying the place out. Personally, I think certain folks want the CT to themselves and work to keep new people out, or leave as quickly as possible.

I love it when someone like ManeTMP or Leviathan, or Shane, or Urchin comes in there and smacks me around because I always learn something from it. I had more fun last night when the MA was down and there were 90 in the CT than I have in a long time.

I heard a lot of people, some who had never been in the CT ever before, say things to the effect "hey, this is kinda fun". Heck even ManeTMP said "the CT is pretty fun when its like this". Unfortunately, there were nearly as many that said they thought it blew chunks.

eilif · « **Reply #36 on:** March 17, 2005, 10:22:13 PM »

When i was on my 2 week trial CT was the only place i hanged out, no big reason other than i was with a good group at the time, i flew with the flying ghosts headed by the pilot that goes by "1963" we had a great time, and I fealt welcomed.

As a new player and new too flight sims i enjoyed the feeling that CT offered, the sense of imersion, the sense that you were fighting in your countrys air force re living the events that shaped the world into what it is today.

for me ma is a meeting place where the community can hang out in between special events and just do as they please, its not the begining and end all of ah, and i dont think it was intended to be, i think there will be a day when ma will have less numbers than other servers and other air combat war games that htc dreams up, whether they are historical or fantastical in nature.

if people just keep their mouths shut and relax things would go alot better, and alot more would get done.

Slash27 · « **Reply #37 on:** March 18, 2005, 02:56:46 AM »

What I did see that I didn't like was the overbearing text police. I sat in a tower for ten minutes and observed that some text discussions were blunt, sometimes even a bit contentious. I didn't see any swearing, but there was some complaining about being vulched and the like. What bothered me was the constant intervention of the CT admin guys warning players about their discussions, and the overuse of blue "God text", even for conversations. One guy was complaining a lot on the 200 channel, and he was told to either "knock it off or leave".

Not what happened at all. The guy wasnt warned about about complaints or for trash talking. What ever the problem between the two was, it broke down to silly insults and personal attacks. He was asked more than once to knock it off but refused. So he was informed to knock it off or leave. That was the worst thing that happened along those lines the whole night. The only other thing I said at one point when things heated up was a simple "ease up guys" which worked fine. Some one had complained about some vulching, to which I said it not against the rules but was kind of lame given most were doing thier fighting in the air. There were no blue text fun nazis abusing their powers and to imply other wise is plain silly because thats not the way it happened. Things went rather well in my opinion on Ch1 given the predisposed animosity towards the CT by some MAers and likewise ill will by some CTers towards the MA regulars. Im glad people were able to drop in a have some fun till the MA was back up and running.

dedalos · « **Reply #38 on:** March 18, 2005, 01:04:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Löwe
Dedalos, I think you get that in any arena. It's just CT is so sparsely populated it just takes one or two farts to stink up the whole room.

Grits · « **Reply #39 on:** March 18, 2005, 01:41:38 PM »

Hey, good fights last night at A129/134 Dedalos. Your pretty darn good in that P-40.

dedalos · « **Reply #40 on:** March 18, 2005, 02:14:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Grits
Hey, good fights last night at A129/134 Dedalos. Your pretty darn good in that P-40.

~~Yeah, it was fun to have a good night after a while. I was actually getting some kills here and there.~~

Widewing · « **Reply #41 on:** March 18, 2005, 02:16:51 PM »

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There were no blue text fun nazis abusing their powers and to imply other wise is plain silly because thats not the way it happened.

Here's some advice. Save God text for extreme situations. Use the yellow text for routine cautioning. I find that too much God text causes it to become ordinary, and consequently, it is often ignored as normal text clutter. At least that is my experience using it in the TA.

Another reason not to use admin text frequently is that players will begin to believe you are using it as a badge of authority. Admin people (including trainers) should be as invisible as possible, using 200 or country text for most messages. When someone gets out of hand (way out of hand), then use the God text to get their attention.

My usual approach is to use country text for the first warning of mild offenses. Second warning can get either yellow or blue depending on how disruptive the player is. There is no third warning, just instant ejection. Serious rules violations get one warning, then it's bye-bye on the next instance.

However, over the time span that I've been a trainer, I have had to eject only one player. Most will comply when warned of the consequences. It's also often more effective to PM the offender rather than chastise him in front of everyone, which often generates unneeded anger. Being discrete often pays bigger dividends than a public whipping. Likewise, you are not at risk for being perceived as a "hardprettythang". Again, you can manage an arena while being generally invisible.

My regards,

Widewing

Slash27 · « **Reply #42 on:** March 18, 2005, 07:14:30 PM »

I wasnt looking for your advice. Next time try not assuming things arent done right because you arent then one doing it.

Widewing · « **Reply #43 on:** March 18, 2005, 07:56:55 PM »

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Originally posted by Slash27
I wasnt looking for your advice. Next time try not assuming things arent done right because you arent then one doing it.

Nonetheless, it is good advice.

Well, I was trying to avoid being blunt, hoping you would take the hint. I came away from an hour in the CT feeling that the admin guys were on a power trip, suddenly having so many players to impress with their authority. If I felt that way, how many other of the 60 or so non-regulars in the CT that night also thought the same?

Maybe the lack of players in the CT is a clue. Maybe the fact that 30% of the players are staff is too subtle a hint.

Either way, it's your party and you guys can run it anyway you wish. Have fun.

My regards,

Widewing

Zippatuh · « **Reply #44 on:** March 18, 2005, 08:45:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Edbert
I wish I had that problem, my wife wants me to watch american-freakin-idol with her!

blech-cough-pteui

Been their... Doing that...

I've at least got her to the point of just taping it then fast forwarding through the crap. Cuts an hour program down to about 30 minutes.