Author Topic: Culero, this is what I was talking about (Read 1699 times)

culero · « **Reply #45 on:** March 20, 2005, 09:14:59 PM »

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Perhaps, but I'm saying we should take both of these steps.

Dood, why would you want to punish poor people when its not necessary to do so in order to accomplish what you want?

Examine yourself a little, please.

culero

culero · « **Reply #46 on:** March 20, 2005, 09:15:44 PM »

oops, sorry for the double post

Steve · « **Reply #47 on:** March 20, 2005, 10:23:17 PM »

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Dood, why would you want to punish poor people

I want to punish criminals. Illegal aliens are criminals.

culero · « **Reply #48 on:** March 21, 2005, 04:08:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Steve
I want to punish criminals. Illegal aliens are criminals.

That statement tends to persuade me you're too ignorant in general to comprehend what we're discussing.

Here's a clue: there are degrees to everything in life, and judgements to be made. For instance, in some states having oral sex with your wife in the privacy of your bedroom would make you a criminal. According to your statement, both of you would therefore deserve to go to jail if either went down on the other. That really makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?

I think what's at play here is that you resent Mexicans for who they are, and that's driving your thought on the issues. I feel sorry for you.

culero (out)

Skydancer · « **Reply #49 on:** March 21, 2005, 06:28:45 AM »

Help out your poor neighbours. Help them achieve the same living standards etc that you have. They won't want to come no more illegal immigrants. Its a novel policy but you never know it might work. Cancel Foreign debt that might be a start. Start talking to Fidel you might help that nation out and learn a thing or two. Better living conditions in Cuba, fewer immigrants I would imagine. Like wise Mexico etc.

By the way help doesn't mean deciding what type of Gvt they should have and then imposing that upon them by military force blowing the Sh*t out of the place in order to achieve it, or supporting military juntas favourable to you, like in Chile, Bolivia, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Argentina etc, who then trample onthe rights of the people and set up dictatorships !

Jackal1 · « **Reply #50 on:** March 21, 2005, 07:03:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Skydancer

By the way help doesn't mean deciding what type of Gvt they should have and then imposing that upon them by military force blowing the Sh*t out of the place in order to achieve it, or supporting military juntas favourable to you, like in Chile, Bolivia, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Argentina etc, who then trample onthe rights of the people and set up dictatorships !

Zulu you never cease to amaze me at the different angles you go about posting your antiAmerican views on an American hosted board. Not the coldest beer in the fridge comes to mind.

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Cancel Foreign debt that might be a start. Start talking to Fidel you might help that nation out and learn a thing or two. Better living conditions in Cuba, fewer immigrants I would imagine.

ROFLMAO
Yea Fidel is such a likeable, reasonable individual. Pouring money and resources into a Communist, Russian puppet country is gonna be on the top of the "Things to do " list here in the U.S. Hell, if we were to give them enough cash we might even pay for the transporatation of the Russian missiles to be set up and aimed at us again.
Fidel has his own agenda. the Fidel agenda.

lazs2 · « **Reply #51 on:** March 21, 2005, 09:03:40 AM »

except for the socialist know nothing tool skydancer... we all pretty much agree.. I really like the fact that he points at the U.S. while his country is far worse in every way. What is he doing to get his country helping all the downtrodden?

No.. we need to simply have a central check point and hireing waiting period like the federal 5 day waiting period for guns.

I believe that it would work in about 99% of the cases "sorry, no records that this person exists"

If we then needed a lobor force... temporary work visas could be issued under the same program. Employers caught (even beverly hills richn folk with illegal maids and landscapers) would get community time (say picking fruit) and a huge fine.

lazs

Jackal1 · « **Reply #52 on:** March 21, 2005, 09:20:50 AM »

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If we then needed a lobor force... temporary work visas could be issued under the same program. Employers caught (even beverly hills richn folk with illegal maids and landscapers) would get community time (say picking fruit) and a huge fine.

lazs

That would be worth the passing of a bill such as this just for that. Free entertainment.

Skydancer · « **Reply #53 on:** March 21, 2005, 12:02:04 PM »

Well I'm not holding up the UK as a paragon of virtue. We have an election coming and illegal immigration is a massive problem here too. And due to our forthcoming election its a big topic. Also this is a much smaller place than the US so it has a real impact on the lives of people here too. So yeah we actualy do have something in common here between the US and UK.

Immigration is usualy economic. People come here and to US Europe etc because we live well comparatively. They come here because they want a piece of that. Since historicaly the developed nations have ignored or actively exploited less developed nations it ought to be that we do more to support and help those countries develop now. We are rich they are poor. It is good sense to help your poor neighhbour become rich too. Then you negate the conditions which give rise to the immigration problem we have now.

That is a sensible long term strategy. Putting more obstacles in the way and building bigger walls will not help they will still keep trying and finding ways to get here.
Also those people leaving would be better off staying put and helping build the countries they are living in.

In fact by helping your neighbour you help yourself too. Anything else is short term and stoopid!

The Wall idea don't work. Just ask Eric Honneker! He tried to keep people in. We're trying to keep em out. Same issue different emphasis. Either way in the long term it was a failure leading to stagnation and ultimately collapse.

Oh and if you stopped this idiotic outdated embargo of Cuba and helped improve conditions there you might find your enemy becomes your freind! So no need for missiles aimed at the US eh?

Jackal1 · « **Reply #54 on:** March 21, 2005, 12:27:50 PM »

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Oh and if you stopped this idiotic outdated embargo of Cuba and helped improve conditions there you might find your enemy becomes your freind! So no need for missiles aimed at the US eh?

Psssst Zulu. Cuba is a Russian puppet country. Get it? I doubt it.
Idiotic embargo of Cuba??? Fidel made his choice. It`s a "you made your bed, now sleep in it" situation.
We have helped finance, educate, build, supply more countries than any other country. Usualy they have turned around and stabbed us in the back, or I should say attempted to. A few changes are occuring and have been occuring in the last years. If a country shows need and a willingness to be a loyal friend, then we help. If not, as of late you are SOL. That`s the way it should be. I can only hope this trend continues even in a more progressive manner. It`s about time we take care of the U.S. 1st, then consider options elsewhere. A few countries are learning the hard way that if you screw with us, you have pizzed in your own Post Toasties. I, for one am smiling.

Skydancer · « **Reply #55 on:** March 21, 2005, 12:51:54 PM »

Urm Maybe I'm living too much in the here and now but as I understand it Russia is no longer a communist dictatorship! So how exactly is Cuba a puppet/client state of Russia? And isn't Russia Mr Bush's freind in the perpetual global war on terror?

Jackal1 · « **Reply #56 on:** March 21, 2005, 01:02:14 PM »

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Urm Maybe I'm living too much in the here and now but as I understand it Russia is no longer a communist dictatorship! So how exactly is Cuba a puppet/client state of Russia? And isn't Russia Mr Bush's freind in the perpetual global war on terror?

If you actualy believe any of that , then I have some ocean front property in Arizona I`d let ya have cheap.
Russia was put on a leash and will be kept there.

Skydancer · « **Reply #57 on:** March 21, 2005, 01:29:24 PM »

Which dried up Ocean in Arizona is the property near!?

I and many others not living in the past belive that I suspect!

Steve · « **Reply #58 on:** March 21, 2005, 03:54:36 PM »

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I think what's at play here is that you resent Mexicans for who they are, and that's driving your thought on the issues. I feel sorry for you.

Lol, now you fallen into the depths of stupidity. I'd throw you a line but... nahhh stay there.

lazs2 · « **Reply #59 on:** March 21, 2005, 04:27:04 PM »

skydancer... it becomes more and more apparent that you know nothing of the U.S. Your socialist weepy view of the world is not helping either.

What you know about firearms could be added to what you know about illegal immigration in the U.S. and crammed into a thimble and still have enough room left to fit in all you know about the rest of the U.S. and it's citizens.

lazs