Author Topic: Culero, this is what I was talking about (Read 2233 times)

Jackal1 · « **Reply #75 on:** March 22, 2005, 08:24:25 PM »

Why don`t you slide that by your country and see how it flys.
I don`t know where you keep coming up with this "we" stuff.
Our country has been there, done that more than any country on the face of the earth. It nearly always came back to bite us in the ***, or at least was tryed.
We sort of got a little leary of supporting our enemies and are now going in a new direction .

Skydancer · « **Reply #76 on:** March 22, 2005, 08:31:44 PM »

Well I guess you'll have to spend more tax dollars on millitary equipment, higher fences, greater defences, to keep out all the undesirables and keep that ole war going then.

And you could have been spending em on healthcare education, helping your fellow man!

I know what I'd rather our Govt spent our taxes on. The long term solution not the idiotic short term solution of putting up the barricades and fighting wars.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #77 on:** March 22, 2005, 08:43:02 PM »

Like I said, slide it by "your" country and see if it flys.
Here in the U.S. the illegal situation will be handled in respect to it`s importance. A lot has been brought to light as of late and a whole lot will change.
No more Mr. nice guy, on your knees Biatch, so to speak.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #78 on:** March 22, 2005, 08:58:57 PM »

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Well I guess you'll have to spend more tax dollars on millitary equipment

Oh yea.. I nearly forgot.
I`m all for this. Have been all along. Some of our problems arose from the military cutbacks some years ago.
By building up military strength it has always helped our country in many ways. As side effects it produces more industry, more jobs, more businesses in general. It boosts the economy, reduces unemployment. It keeps youth crime down.
It also is a great deterrent.

Skydancer · « **Reply #79 on:** March 23, 2005, 03:54:16 AM »

Jackal1 me old sparring partner. What would you do without me? Oh yeah go and spar with Siaf!

Give me a school, hospital, etc etc over a bigger army any day. And No I don't want to live behind walls. I want to live where I can go where I like when I like, Oh thats the EU by the way. ( none of this VIsa crap here) And in order to preserve those rights I'd like to see other nations in the world brought up to similar standards so they can enjoy them too rather than feel the need to come here and use my rights! Africa would be a good place to start. They could do with a little help.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #80 on:** March 23, 2005, 08:14:42 AM »

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Jackal1 me old sparring partner. What would you do without me? Oh yeah go and spar with Siaf!

Give me a school, hospital, etc etc over a bigger army any day. And No I don't want to live behind walls. I want to live where I can go where I like when I like, Oh thats the EU by the way. ( none of this VIsa crap here) And in order to preserve those rights I'd like to see other nations in the world brought up to similar standards so they can enjoy them too rather than feel the need to come here and use my rights! Africa would be a good place to start. They could do with a little help.

Hehe. Siaf was a has been before he ever became to be. He at least has enough sense to know when to get out of the mix when he gets in deep water.
I can`t and won`t even attempt to speak for your country. You can`t have an input in mine as much as you would like to think you can. We are not socialist nor communist, so your ideas just don`t fly here.
You give me a building up of our military on a large scale again and I can sho you many, many hospitals and many, many schools as a result. I can also show thousands upon thousands of new businesses and thousands taken from the unemployment list.
As far as Africa goes, I have saeen that mentioned various times here on the boards how we need to be in Africa. Newsflash. We have allready been there, done that and like I said it came back to bite us in the ***.
You cannot help those that have a different direction they wish to go. If a country is dead set on destroying itself, then there is not much anyone can do about it.
As far as the U.S. goes in wordly affairs and some of the outcomes we have seen with a lot of countries that play the part of being allies until it comes down to the nut cuttin, then turn their backs and run........those days are over with a capitol O.
I think it was made quite clear when this recently occured and the message was sent..... Last chance ..either get in the wagon for the full ride or you will be ignored.

lazs2 · « **Reply #81 on:** March 23, 2005, 09:11:31 AM »

zulu... cry me a river! yeah... myu back is allmost broken supporting all those rich people... save it for the next red cell meeting bud.

I am the one staying on the subject... there is not enough wealth in the states to bring every country up to our standards so that we are all equal... Your arguement is nonsensical... and... you ride while other people in the world walk or crawl... when you have given everything so that you are an even basis with the poorest in the world then we will talk again... oh wait... then I won't be able to talk to you at all. win win as you say.

No... my idea is workable. It costs nothing and even reduces border patrol costs... It brings in money from those "rich" a holes you and your red cell mates hate so much too... win win

Simply fine and imprison anyone who hires illegals.. no medical other than emergency life saving. 5 day national waiting period for national background checks on anyone employed by anyone in the U.S. including landscapers and maids.

Want a maid? have her turn her papers in and fill out the forms at any EDD. wait five days and you got it... or, if you must have that soft boiled egg tommarow.... get an agency who has allready done the work to send you one.

Both of us use the same principle to solve the problem.... that of making it less desirable to illegaly cross the border... yours is touchy feely, unworkable commie crap and mine makes sense.... is the only difference.

Do mine and you get rid of the problem and.... you and your red cell group still have the option of wearing your $500 leather outfit and riding your $10,000 motorcyle to the protest gathering against the rich oppressors. I won't be attending tho. thank you very much.

lazs

Skydancer · « **Reply #82 on:** March 23, 2005, 06:01:25 PM »

It cost me about $3500 actualy. But hey who's counting?

Jackal1 · « **Reply #83 on:** March 23, 2005, 08:52:42 PM »

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It cost me about $3500 actualy.

Well, ya see there? That`s a starting point that we can relate to right there?
Scrap iron prices are way down in our country also.

Skydancer · « **Reply #84 on:** March 24, 2005, 03:07:39 AM »

You are relentless aren't you.

Wierd. Fundamentaly I think you spout a loud of cobblers. But then you think I do too.

There is a strange BBs symmetry going on here.

Now for the comeback, I'm a waitin!

Jackal1 · « **Reply #85 on:** March 24, 2005, 03:40:03 AM »

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You are relentless aren't you.

What ya expect? I`m one of the evil , evil Americans.
If we let down even for an instant our quest to invade Canada will never come to be...........and I`ve got my eye on that Moosehead factory too.

Skydancer · « **Reply #86 on:** March 24, 2005, 03:56:15 AM »

No.

You are not an evil American. Not all American's are evil.There is usualy a smattering of evil people in any population, in any country.

What you are though is a bloke who only reads the bits he wants to. Takes statements out of context and prefers insult to debate.

You also seem to be the kind of guy who these folks would love as you are too trusting and simple to realise that it is this group who actualy run your country. They have not been elected or voted in by you or anyone. They have appointed themselves and that bush fella is a puppet whose strings they can pull.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

Jackal1 · « **Reply #87 on:** March 24, 2005, 04:17:50 AM »

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No.

You are not an evil American. Not all American's are evil.There is usualy a smattering of evil people in any population, in any country.

What you are though is a bloke who only reads the bits he wants to. Takes statements out of context and prefers insult to debate.

You also seem to be the kind of guy who these folks would love as you are too trusting and simple to realise that it is this group who actualy run your country. They have not been elected or voted in by you or anyone. They have appointed themselves and that bush fella is a puppet whose strings they can pull.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

What I am is the burr under your saddle.
What I read and understand is your lame, almost brainless attempts to bash the U.S. on a U.S. based board, then ya get bent out of shape because people don`t buy your load of poorly attempted, almost childish propaganda.
You also seem like a kid in a candy store when it comes to picking and choosing websites and taking things at face value at them. Are you new to the internet? If you are I can give you a hint. You can find just about everything imaginable placed on websites and touted as the truth. You seem to either believe they are actual facts or you at least get upset when you slide crap by and it`s not swallowed up hook, line and sinker.
Do you ever have any original thoughts of your own?
I`m gonna ask you again, and I doubt it will be answered this time as it has not been many times before.
Exactly what is your stake in the U.S. affairs? The reason I said "stake" is that it seems to be what you relate to as you have made the statement of "The U.S. is getting more out of it in return than us" or a reasonable facsimile.
Do you think everything is done as a capitol investment?

Skydancer · « **Reply #88 on:** March 24, 2005, 06:05:20 AM »

Now maybe I may be mistaken but isn't that the official website of that particular Thinktank/US govt advisory body!?

As for my stake. Its my understanding that your current administration views itself as "the world's policeman" We all live in a world where US global dominance plays a very real role in our lives. It caused our stupid Govt to drag my country into a war. ( just one small example ) That's what i think gives me and everyone on this planet a stake in these matters.

I'd much rather not have that stake!

Jackal1 · « **Reply #89 on:** March 24, 2005, 06:13:09 AM »

Didn`t figure you would answer.
I think your country is losing a valuable asset by not having you share your views and wisdom on one of their boards.

Nice edit. I can do that too.

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As for my stake. Its my understanding that your current administration views itself as "the world's policeman"

Don`t let this come as a shock to you, but we have been the "world policemen" for quite some time.

So........ what do you think your country has done that you need to fear the U.S.?

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It caused our stupid Govt to drag my country into a war. ( just one small example ) That's what i think gives me and everyone on this planet a stake in these matters.

OK, so you think your government is stupid also. What government do you prefer then?
If you think your government is so much stupider than you, then why aren`t you taking your views to your own country to try to make changes.
By "it" in your statement I am assuming you are referring to the U.S. Is that correct.
If so, you don`t beleive your country is capable of making decisions on it`s own?