Author Topic: Killshooter.. best idea? (Read 968 times)

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #15 on:** March 20, 2005, 12:22:30 PM »

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Originally posted by SuperDud
So your an option A guy huh:p

Yup while accidents sometimes may happen if you fly smart they are the exeption rather then the norm.

Karnak · « **Reply #16 on:** March 20, 2005, 01:13:28 PM »

Zeroing ammo also doesn't remove a fighter from the enemy's problem. He doesn't know one of them is no longer a threat and is liable to both waste time trying to kill said ammoless fighter and waste energy trying to prevent it from gaining a gun solution.

When a friendly fire incident happens either the shootee or the shooter must be completely removed fromthe air combat equation by being destryed. Take your pick as to which it should be.

Personally I've suffered killshooter less than 10 times in all the time I've played AH.

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #17 on:** March 20, 2005, 01:37:21 PM »

I think I have been hit by kill shooter 3 times in an aircraft and once in a gv in 3 years. Each of those times another individual flew or drove through my vehicle while I happened to be shooting. There have been many more times when others zoomed through me or directly in front of me and I avoided the problem. Stupid stuff happens and there are also heros out there who fly through someone else while they are shooting to screw them. My suggestion is nothing more than giving the benefit of the doubt. I don't really care since it's not my customer getting pissed at me. I'm just pointing it out.

SuperDud · « **Reply #18 on:** March 20, 2005, 01:40:17 PM »

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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Yup while accidents sometimes may happen if you fly smart they are the exeption rather then the norm.

OK, you and Karnak have swayed me. Looking back, like I said, only time I've had a problem was when bad guy and friendly were HOing each other and I thought the bad guy was behind the friendly on his 6. Got the kill and killed my engine so I had to ditch, I guess you could say I got them both lol. Other than that, whenever friendlies are around, I've never had more than an occasional ping from being overzealous. I'm now an option A guy!

tactic · « **Reply #19 on:** March 20, 2005, 03:19:02 PM »

Gentlemen, Just a little ~~Courtsey~~ would save anyone from getting a killshooter, Easy to type text or vox someone to say: "hey so and so you got that spit?" or "hey so and so need help?" or "hey so and so want me to engage in your fight to help?" or "Hey so and so if you need help let me know?" its that easy. Ive seen it done many times, but surely its not enough.

To many times I see a guy thats been on some bandits 6 working it to get his or her guns on target (not in trouble mind you) and a cherry picker swoops in and swipes kill and possibley a K/S. <---- this action right here causes a panic in the guy thats been working the potential kill, then the K/S potential in in affect.

Really sucks!

Because now your not only fighting the bandit, your fighting your countryman to preserve your potential kill you've been working on for how ever long it may be. 20 seconds or 5 minute dog fight its still your time and effort spent, so at this point your distracted and should'nt be, now having to look out for getting your kill and not a Killshooter.

Happens to many of AH'ers. If the bandit there fighting heads toward you and involves you, then obviously asking is out of the question, protect yourself!, To save a squad member ( i.e. if your on a Bandits 6 and he on my squadies 6 and your not getting him fast enough, I'm gunna if i can) and maybe a few other situations warrant not asking Other then that, its just plain rudeness IMO

R-E-S-P-E-C-T is the answer

NoBaddy · « **Reply #20 on:** March 20, 2005, 04:14:08 PM »

I would suggest that the FIRST damage taken in a killshooter incident NEVER be critical damage.

DmdBT · « **Reply #21 on:** March 20, 2005, 06:50:03 PM »

Make a selection where you can either keep the killshooter damage as it is or have your account billed twenty-five cents towards the HTC Cragganmore Single Malt Scotch account over at the internetwines place.

Damned Big T

Kweassa · « **Reply #22 on:** March 20, 2005, 08:27:44 PM »

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LOL please tell me you are joking?! you can not actually believe the garbage your shoveling here.

200 off a enemys 6, one, i would have already ensured no con diving in on me for pick. i would not check 6 for a freindly diving in to dive through me as i fire.

That's why you die in killshooter accidents. The killshooter is doing its job perfectly by punishing you for your carelessness.

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ive only been killshot a few times, only once maybe twice, did i deserve it...other times i was 200 out, just pull trigger when freindly con dives b/n me and nme...boom. no time to react, or i would not have fired.

Yup. No time to react. Why am I not surprised?

You were target fixated and didn't doubt the slightest bit someone else might also want to take a bite at your prey. Sorry KillnU, the MA isn't DA. There are other people flying nearby, you know. This isn't one of those masturbation fantasy "1:1 duels" some people hold so sacred. Other people want as much as kills as you do, and they will go for it, unless they are organized or inherently courteous - which you should know by now that its very hard to find in the MA nowadays.

If you would have been watching who was nearby, who was following the enemy plane with you, and actually took the time to try and communicate with that guy, you might have had some time to react, or avoid incidents that need such reactions in the first place, no?

Who's shovelling who garbage here?

Sikboy · « **Reply #23 on:** March 20, 2005, 08:32:12 PM »

I <3 Killshooter

-Sik

OIO · « **Reply #24 on:** March 20, 2005, 10:53:57 PM »

how about killshooter making both planes turn into giant flying sheep?

or make both plane's speed drop to 0 instantly ... that way both will stall but one wont 'die' because some ******* jumped in between him and his d100 con as he was firing his 30mm's.

SlapShot · « **Reply #25 on:** March 20, 2005, 11:43:55 PM »

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Originally posted by Kweassa
That's why you die in killshooter accidents. The killshooter is doing its job perfectly by punishing you for your carelessness.

Yup. No time to react. Why am I not surprised?

You were target fixated and didn't doubt the slightest bit someone else might also want to take a bite at your prey. Sorry KillnU, the MA isn't DA. There are other people flying nearby, you know. This isn't one of those masturbation fantasy "1:1 duels" some people hold so sacred. Other people want as much as kills as you do, and they will go for it, unless they are organized or inherently courteous - which you should know by now that its very hard to find in the MA nowadays.

If you would have been watching who was nearby, who was following the enemy plane with you, and actually took the time to try and communicate with that guy, you might have had some time to react, or avoid incidents that need such reactions in the first place, no?

Who's shovelling who garbage here?

Only one shovling watermelon in this thread is you ... unbelievable.

Kweassa · « **Reply #26 on:** March 20, 2005, 11:45:42 PM »

That's an interesting idea Tac.. but I imagine this scenario;

'*Groooan...* There goes Mr.Smartymouth with his yapping around in ch.200 again... Golly, if only he wasn't on my side..."

"Wait.. izzat him I see down there?? Ha! Finally a chance to piss him off! I'll just swoop down and when he's about to make a kill... bam! He's gonna be one surprised sucker..!"

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Kweassa · « **Reply #27 on:** March 20, 2005, 11:48:42 PM »

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Only one shovling watermelon in this thread is you ... unbelievable.

Fortunately, this "chit" that you're claiming I'm shovelling is how the game is modelled currently. Killshooter works exactly the way it is designed to.

Got any problems with that?

Then you can always present your mighty flamey opinions to the guy who makes the system this way.

* KS hurts/kills people who shoot friendlies.
* No exceptions to that rule.
* And if you are causing KS to others, or is a victim to one, then its as much your own fault as it is for the other guy.
* The only way to avoid it is 1) fly with courteous people, 2) fly with guys who know team-fighting, or 3) grow more SA.

OIO · « **Reply #28 on:** March 21, 2005, 12:19:06 AM »

k so how about they both go to 0 speed AND turn into huge flying sheep?

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr r*plink*baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa*auger*

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #29 on:** March 21, 2005, 08:10:00 AM »

Kweassa,

Hes right, your shoveling a load here.

Yesterday I was defending a base that was getting overrun in my tiger. Some hero keeps spawning and continually driving back and forth through my tank while I'm trying to engage. Tell me that I should always be jumping out of the gunners position just in case some ******* decides they like driving through people. There is no way you can have much SA while in that position either. I'm not sure but I'll bet the jerk who kept doing it was one of the ones I killed several times while holding off the horde that was attacking me.