Author Topic: Dive bombing V Torpedo (Read 1249 times)

Big G · « **on:** March 21, 2005, 12:41:58 PM »

Hi Guys
Apologies in advance if this has been done to death before !
The question is all in the title of the topic, I have had zero success in torpedo attacks to date, I find that dive bombing the fleet works to a degree, so what do you guys think ?

humble · « **Reply #1 on:** March 21, 2005, 12:57:38 PM »

I do know of a few successful torpedo attacks...but only a few. I hit an escort once but never the CV or cruiser. I think you need more of a mass attack with torpedo planes then with dive bombing...you can engage the CV via divebombing with only the "puffy ack" in play...if you drop torpedo's outside of ship ack range its awful tough to get a hit...inside ship ack range you pop pretty quickly unless you have company....

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 21, 2005, 01:10:50 PM »

From experience, you will almost never get close enough as a single attacker to get a torpedo into a carrier. There are certain circumstances when it can happen, but it doesnt happen often. Plus, it takes more than 1. Or a combination of torps and bombs. You are far more likely to get ordnance on target and live through the experience as a dive bomber. I like the F4U for it, but a P51 or P47 work just as well.

Big G · « **Reply #3 on:** March 21, 2005, 02:13:47 PM »

Tried dive bombing the carriers with the 110-G2 a few times but it seems to want to pull itself up at around 3000 feet ? Tried it with the P47, that seems to work a whole lot better.
Once I have practiced a few more times, I'm going to be trying myself on the online game and then I am going to try to hook up with some units out there that are on the lookout for a new rookie pilot lol.

jaxxo · « **Reply #4 on:** March 21, 2005, 02:26:02 PM »

b5n2's work descent if guns are unmanned and minimal cons

Gloves · « **Reply #5 on:** March 21, 2005, 02:34:48 PM »

A) With torps, go head on with the CV.

B) Use JU-88's. A formation of 3 gives you 6 torps in the water plus some bombs to drop after the torps as you fly over the fleet.

Glove

Sikboy · « **Reply #6 on:** March 21, 2005, 02:38:14 PM »

Ask me again after the Coral Sea scenario

-Sik

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #7 on:** March 21, 2005, 03:55:12 PM »

Actually,

Torps work pretty well if you line up the shot well... Its best to come head on with 0 deflection and under 200 ft. Line up and once you start recieving flak drop and pull out. Works pretty well if the fleet does not have much aircover.

Schatzi · « **Reply #8 on:** March 21, 2005, 04:18:58 PM »

Two Ju87 (1800 bomb) direct hits should do the job as well.... You usually die though, unless you sink the destroyer first.

Ecliptik · « **Reply #9 on:** March 21, 2005, 04:19:44 PM »

The B5N is one of those planes that is really out of place in the MA. A successful torpedo attack requires a lot of planes, coordination, and an effective escort if there are any cons at all in the area. Torpedos, when they hit, are much more devastating than bombs, and a well planned and executed attack could take out the entire CV group, but the pre-requistes I mentioned virtually don't exist in the MA. It would be cool to see a squad train at it and execute a large attack.

Divebombing is way easier to do solo. I've had a lot of success in the past with the Ju-87 and that big shipbusting 1800 kg bomb. The climbout takes a while but it's fun to put that thing on target.

frank3 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 21, 2005, 04:44:36 PM »

Like said, it takes many people to have succces with a torpedo-run. On your own, you have 2 option: or you live and miss, or you die and have a slighter bigger succes of hitting it.

But because ALL the anti-aircraft fire from the fleet focusses on 1 plane, you can be sure at least 1 pilot dies from a mass-raid.

Kweassa · « **Reply #11 on:** March 21, 2005, 05:25:30 PM »

Well.. let's put it this way.

Unless you up with 20 other people and go torpedo the CV from all angles simultaneously, no AH torp plane is ever gonna get past the 5" guns alive.

Morpheus · « **Reply #12 on:** March 21, 2005, 06:53:20 PM »

I disagree kweassa.

If you hug the water as low as you can you can get well within the 5'' guns and still survive. Mostly due to the fact that you just arent seen as easily.

I know of quite a few people who have sunk CVs on a regular basis with Torps. Fester used to do it all the time when he had enough of a fight that turned into a bunch of Seafires hiding in their CV ack.

Can it be done? Yep. Should you do it? Not until the 5'' ack weenies get in their manly guns and start whaling away at fighters for no reason other than to get a kill. Same goes for bombs. Leave it be until its a real threat to your base or until the ack weenies need to go for a swim... Then sink it.

Your 110 is nosing up from over speed btw. Cut throtle in a dive and if its still wanting to pull out of the dive, start your dive with a slower speed at the begining. The jug is working better because you can go balls to the wall the whole way down, not compress and still pull out of the dive at the end. Its one of the best diving planes in the game, and the strongest.

Remember children. Bombs are OKAY only IF you are still alive after they're dropped. If you die, or are certain to die while dropping them... You're a no good mother-loving-suicide-tardling-dweeb-to-the-square-root-of-999.499875.

That is all.

bj229r · « **Reply #13 on:** March 21, 2005, 07:05:46 PM »

Couldnt say it better Morpheous, except ya fergot to mention deck-lanc dweebs

LYNX · « **Reply #14 on:** March 21, 2005, 08:05:34 PM »

I've sank many Cv's with Ju88's torps (no other dweeb suicider ords) but i've lost many more just trying to get there. Mostly ....Cv ack hugging fighters get ya then there's the 5 ".

I use a 5 to 10 degree bow approach aiming mid way between cruiser and Cv. Loos Torp salvo 1 once cruiser acks fires wait 3 seconds (Life time lol) then drop last salvo. You have to hard turn to get out alive. Expect to lose your drone if cv's acks fully up. Expect landing gear damage. Expect every con in 6.5 to kill ya b4 u reach friendlys and expect the Cv to have turned for sure.

Dive bombing with a maxed P 47 works good. Works even better if 4 or 5 of yas go in same time

I do like a 7K full salvo fronm B24,s