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« Reply #105 on: March 24, 2005, 02:34:17 AM »
Some islanders, I think its in the Soloman Islands have been making their own fuel for years. They have to as the Aussies have embargoed their Island over some mining dispute. ( I know the details are sketchy but I'm trying to remember a documentary I watched ages ago.) They use Palm oil to run their vehicles. And it seemed to work for them.

As long as it didn't wreck the motor and was freely avaiable I'd run my bike on alternative fuel no worries.

The Human race's oil guzzling days ought to be numbered. More power to those boffins who are trying to find something else to power us along.

I don't want to be fighting over the last few drops of fuel like this bloke!



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« Reply #106 on: March 24, 2005, 02:40:14 AM »
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Some islanders, I think its in the Soloman Islands have been making their own fuel for years.  


They must be magical! Making fuel would be a world-wide breakthrough!
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« Reply #107 on: March 24, 2005, 02:58:55 AM »
They use Palm oil!

Sheesh read the bloody thread if your'e going to pick it apart!

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« Reply #108 on: March 24, 2005, 04:28:34 AM »
Yea Nuke.
You are gonna be sorry for pissin him off one day.
When you pull up to a palm tree, take out the hose, then notice the sign "Zulu World Palm Oil Inc.", then you will realize you were not issued the secret decoder ring to unlock the pump.
Where ya gonna be then? Huh? Huh? :D
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« Reply #109 on: March 24, 2005, 06:01:51 AM »
:rolleyes: :lol

! I've nothing to say to that. it'sway to daft to even contemplate!

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« Reply #110 on: March 24, 2005, 06:07:13 AM »
Any of you has news about the nuclear fusion program?

If I remember correctly, has been years since the last time I have eard about it, has been the research abandoned?

Was presented as the best option few years ago, now seem so silent.

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« Reply #111 on: March 24, 2005, 06:19:50 AM »
What exactly do you mean? Nuclear powered cars?I hope not. I think theres one glaring problem with nuclear technology. What do you do with all the waste?

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« Reply #112 on: March 24, 2005, 06:53:53 AM »
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What exactly do you mean? Nuclear powered cars?I hope not. I think theres one glaring problem with nuclear technology. What do you do with all the waste?


're you kidding?

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« Reply #113 on: March 24, 2005, 06:55:06 AM »
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What exactly do you mean? Nuclear powered cars?I hope not. I think theres one glaring problem with nuclear technology. What do you do with all the waste?


Fusion as I understand it does not produce wastes as we have come to think of as waste. Unlike the currently used Fission process Fusion creates non-reactive byproducts or at least it will when it can be done.

It combines atoms rather then splitting them, combine them long enough and you get lead of some other dense material (perhaps I have perfected Fusion in my own brain box).

The world has proven that it will pay for the price of oil and as long as it does that nothing will change. Oil prices go up then expensive oil will be drilled and recovered, oil bearing shale will be tapped, coal gasofacation will be used etc.

The more other sources make economic sense the more moderation will be added to price increases.

This is economics 101 remember that the middle east oil is the cheapest and easiest to get there are many other sources.

 OPEC really does not want an unrestricted rise in oil as it will open up more competition to them and take away there apparent monopoly.

Things will work out, in the 70's everyone went to high MPG cars and waited in lines for a ration of gas. Today we have bigger boats, bigger cars and SUV's and drive more then ever.

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« Reply #114 on: March 24, 2005, 08:10:23 AM »
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I dont think its viable (not to mention a very bad idea) to go almost 100% nuclear untill we figure out a way to dispose of the waste.



breeder reactors

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« Reply #115 on: March 24, 2005, 12:31:57 PM »
What's the scoop on Bio-Diesel anyway? I've read the rah-rah material from the manufacturers: Pacific Bio-Diesel
but am wondering what the downside is? Also, doesn't vegetable oil become viscous  at freezing temperatures?

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Re: Bio Diesel?
« Reply #116 on: March 24, 2005, 12:48:17 PM »
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What's the scoop on Bio-Diesel anyway? I've read the rah-rah material from the manufacturers: Pacific Bio-Diesel
but am wondering what the downside is? Also, doesn't vegetable oil become viscous  at freezing temperatures?

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BioDiesel has a shelf life, kind of like foods.
as for becoming viscous, it depends on the oil type.

read here  for more info. read the links on that page, to see more of the pro and cons, and anything else you might want to know.

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« Reply #117 on: March 24, 2005, 12:48:17 PM »
Yeah, it does. But, so does regular diesel. You have to add alcohol or methanol to keep it thinned out.
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Re: Bio Diesel?
« Reply #118 on: March 24, 2005, 12:55:21 PM »
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What's the scoop on Bio-Diesel anyway? I've read the rah-rah material from the manufacturers: Pacific Bio-Diesel
but am wondering what the downside is? Also, doesn't vegetable oil become viscous  at freezing temperatures?

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back in the dark ages of 1962 i was a marine truck mech, we had multi-fuel engines in our trucks, it was basicly a diesel eng that would run on anything that would burn, corn oil , peanut oil ,coconut oil and of course diesel fuel. it could even run on gasoline if you added motor oil for lube. or a mix of all the above.

the fuel system would sense the specific gravity of whatever was in the injector pump and adjust the mixture.

now 40+ years later, people still are saying "hmm, what about this bio-diesel?"

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« Reply #119 on: March 24, 2005, 01:34:33 PM »
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And laughing at new ideas... that'll change the world.


Nothing new about the perpetual motion machine...