!#$% at the Pump

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Skydancer
Jackal1

You're a rude aggressive bugger aren't you?

Since Fuel cells only produce water as a by product pray tell me how that is more polluting than the crap the petrol engine pours out.

And go learn what a whine is! This is a discussion board. That means discussing things, sharing points of view etc. If disagreeing with your constant redneck twaddle is whining then I'll whine and whine and whine, and I'm damn glad about it.

(are you stalking me? You don't seem to be able to let a single one of my posts go unanswered?)




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  Quite aggressive yes. Been told that many times. Always brings a smile to my face. I hate timid , limp wrist suckers.
  You keep on whining me a river sweet cheeks. I got all the time in the world.
  As fas as discussion goes, you either do notknow how to or you are incapable of a discussion. Go back and read some of the posts in different threads you have ben so lamely involved in Zulu. When it comes to anyones differing with your drivel, you move to the next whine, totaly dropping what you have stated in the beginning. Mainly this is due to the fact that  you are quickly proven unknowledgeable on what you say to begin with. When that don`t work, every time without fail, you try to recover with either bashing the U.S. or go into another whine about how rude or the poster is.
  You whined and whined wanting a debate. You got a couple and you can`t handle it because you don`t know what you are talking about to start with , so you go off on another text tantrum.
Then if that don`t cut it , as far as I`m concerned, you try to get me to ignore you in one way or the other, such as this time.
Once again, if you can`t stand the heat stay out of the kitchen. If you are going to saddle up, then ride the sucker ya wimp, or put her back in the barn.
  Now as far as the topic at hand goes I have allready been beat to the punch by Skuzz. It`s not the by-products after use, it is the process to begin with.
 Now since you have no knowledge of what you were promoting I guess you will have to find another subject, then figure out how to work in how evil the U.S. is .
 Redneck? You bet your sweet patoonia slick.

[rpm]

I'd say in both cases (ethanol and hydrogen) there are advances that COULD be made to make them more cost efficient to produce. So far nobody has taken the initiative to make those advances. ADM is happy to drag their feet because they are being subsidized to stay right where they are and big oil has no need for fuel cells. So technology stays put.
When the military takes an interest in the subject look for leaps and bounds to be made in technology surrounding alternative fuels and power. (i.e., fuel cell powered helicopters, UCAV's, tanks)

[Skydancer]

Jackal1 words escape me........................... .....

This aint about the US or some US bash. Its about fuel. The oil industry is not just American You have no sense of humour do you?

[g00b]

Bring it on! Make gas $5/gallon or more. We're just starting to feel the pinch that the rest of the world has known for DECADES. We were spoiled rotten. Now the the dollar is weakening we are forced to pay closer to what everyone else is already used to.

You'll notice people riding bikes and using public transportation a LOT more in European countries.

Hey, I design and build practical bicycles and electric and alternative fuel vehicles. This can only be good for my biz in the long run.

The world collectively and the US especially has it's head stuck in the sand. Seriously, the Hubbert Peak is not some liberal fantasy. Cars, airliners, ships, etc... wil not exist as they do today. Sure there will probably be varients thereof but I'd wager inside of a 100 years there is going to be a MAJOR paradimn shift in transportation technology.


g00b

[hawker238]

Originally posted by Skydancer
Jackal1 words escape me........................... .....

This aint about the US or some US bash. Its about fuel. The oil industry is not just American You have no sense of humour do you?

I got this one, Jackal.




Arggggh, shut it you limp wristed commie-liberal tree hugger!  Why don't you go whine some more!

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Skydancer
Jackal1 words escape me.
 

   Now there`s a newsflash for ya.

This aint about the US or some US bash. Its about fuel. The oil industry is not just American

  Great. Then enlighten us about  what your country is doing about your fuel situation instead of whining about how we, here in the U.S. have the worst autos, lowest prices, etc. That should be none of your concern, but as usual you worked it in.
  Tell us about what all your country is doing. Enilghten us with your wisdom on how you can cure your countries problems for a change since you seem to have mastered everything that`s wrong with the U.S.
  We have fields that have been explored here in my state and capped for a long , long time, left untapped, but avvailable.
  What is in your country. I have no idea.  Fill us in.


 

You have no sense of humour do you?

  I`m talking to you, so I must have.
Anything in particular that you have said that was overly humorous that I missed? I mean other than the overall picture.

Heheh! Not bad for the first shot hawker.

[hawker238]

I'll get it next time.

[Rolex]

You guys are funny. Yeah, that's it... build more US refineries.

The temporary fix is already in progress: Get Iraqi oil flowing into the US. That will help a little.

What's next? Here's one wild scenario:

average gas price $3
inflation
politicians talk about energy independence
deficit and debt service rises to fuel higher inflation
$4-$5/gal average gas price
politicians talk about energy independence
US economy gets worse, inflation 5-6%
global economy slows down
politicians talk about energy independence
Japanese hybrid elec/gas SUVs capture high US market share
politicians talk about unfair Japanese business practices
UAW members smash new hybrids in parking lots
politicians talk about high import taxes to protect US carmakers
$6-$7/gal average gas price
politicians talk about energy independence
unemployment reaches 8%, inflation 8%
China and Asia importing bulk of Saudi Arabian oil
politicians talk about energy independence
Saudi Arabia has WMD and people need to be liberated
China says back off
Operation Saudi Freedom begins
China responds.

[FUNKED1]

WE NEAD TEH HYDRAGREON CARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111ONE

[FUNKED1]

WE WILL GET IT FROM TEH VAST UNDERGROUND RESERVES OF MOLECULAR HYDRAA23RGERAWERN TAHT EXIST ALL OVER TEH PLANAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rolex]

Laugh all you want, but there is a new "Hydrogen Filling Station" less than 2 miles from my house. I should take a photo and post it. They are already building an infrastructure here for fuel cell cars...

[FUNKED1]

YES PRAPARE FOR TEH HYAWER-WE0HJNGDSPOAG;SDALGJGON REVALUTION!!!!!!!!!

[FUNKED1]

No offense intended BTW, I just love to flame on that topic.  
I'll get excited about hydrogen when someone comes up with a way to make H2 without starting from conventional fuels.

[Skydancer]

We had Oil. In the North sea. Then our Lovely Maggie busted our economy and wasted the revenue on paying unemployment benefit!

As for a solution. I believe that fuel cell bike was invented by brits.

Other possible solutions? LPG widely available in the UK. Smaller more fuel efficient cars. Again widely available. People in this country actualy look at MPG figures when buying a car. Unless they got more money than sense!

 As for me advocating that this Island is perfect utopia, I don't think I ever did that. I simply think we have got some things right. There are many things we don't have right. But I'm sure you can point those out as you are so knowledgable about the world outside your borders.

A brief aside for a moment,
Let me ask you something. You guys are proud of your nation yeah? What exactly is wrong with me being proud of mine? you'd think you might understand that. Unless of course the new America is filled to bursting now with people who are so arrogant that they see no value outside their own land.

I'd like to think that is not the case but Jackal1 and guys like you disabuse me of that notion every time. Thank god this is a BBs and in real life there are many proud patriotic Americans who don't just swallow the crap that your think tanks and military industrial complex want you to swallow hook line and sinker, and are capable of seeing value in those from other places.

Your nation has a proud self sacrificing history that is to be applauded. It saddens me to see that slowly being eroded.

[Jackal1]

Your honor I rest my case.
The boy just cannot hold a conversation unless it includes bashing of the U.S. and the people within.
Jealousy being a prime factor I hereby suggest an extended stay in a communist country asylum where he can more deeply study propaganda and work his emotional problems out with the  like minded .