We're trying to get you to see that shutting off the bait that draws them here is simply the most cost effective and practical approach.
The *bait* as you put it is the same thing that has drawn immigrants here since the lost colony of Roanoke....the promise of a better life. Whether it means packing up the whole family and moving here, or just crossing the border illegally in the hope that they can land a job, it's still the promise of a better life that draws them here.
Mexican's wouldnt be crossing the border illegally in the thousands if the Mexican economy was more robust. The extreme poverty levels in Mexico is what is driving this flood of illegal immigrants, and frankly there is little we can do about their economy.
They are often both. Many employers exploit the fact they don't dare become visible to the law and thus can't complain of mistreatment.
Frankly, I could care less what happens to any criminal. Once someone crosses our border illegally they become a criminal.
However, you continue to miss the point. Nobody is saying we should accept illegal immigration. What's really at issue here is the approach to solving the problem. What's most likely to be effective, what's the lowest cost approach (both in terms of $$$ and potential for civil rights abuse), what's the right thing to do (clean up OUR act).
I'm not missing any point. We just disagree on the solution. Cleaning up our act would also include far better security on our borders.
An article that details the problems with your solution:
http://www.dailyhome.com/news/2005/as-xgr-0320-asieckmann-5c19s5029.htmVery little is currently being done to catch employers who hire illegals or to catch the illegals themselves. I got 157 hits when I googled for *efforts to catch illegal aliens*, compared to 1.5 million+ hits on what they cost our economy. Here's what one Arizona lawmaker is proposing.
http://www.americanpatrol.com/05-FEATURES/050125-PEARCE-LOU-DOBBS/0500124-Pearce-Dobbs-Xscri.htmlClosing our border with Mexico (and Canada for that matter) will go along way towards stopping the possiblily of terrorists coming in from either of those 2 countries. Closing the border with Mexico has the additional benefit of stopping the flood of illegal immigrants.
You still have not posted any resources to back your claims Culero, so guess what? You get to climb in the moron bin with myself, nuke, bustr and Silat who is otw with a couch and a fully stocked refridgerator!

Btw Nuke, can you bring a TV? I'll bring a computer, and Bustr can bring a BBQ

*edit* fixed a quote