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Offline fd ski

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« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2005, 11:31:56 AM »
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
It should be okay to steal if you steal only from someone who has just a whole lot of money.


It's a cartel, they are involved in price fixing and abusive practices towards retailers.

But thanks to their profit margins they can pay off our representatives to protect them.

As such, f__k them.

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« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2005, 12:18:28 PM »
My vision is that games based on AI will lose thier appeal rapidly. MMOG is the way to go, nothing can replace the input of another human being.

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« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2005, 12:53:10 PM »
or the satisfaction of them whining about you killing them.
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« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2005, 12:59:26 PM »
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My vision is that games based on AI will lose thier appeal rapidly. MMOG is the way to go, nothing can replace the input of another human being.


Sometimes it is more comfortable to play against the AI... of cours depending on the game.
Against the human players you need to always keep more attention into the game.

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« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2005, 02:15:00 PM »
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My vision is that games based on AI will lose thier appeal rapidly. MMOG is the way to go, nothing can replace the input of another human being.


You have to keep cheating in mind tho. Thats not a problem when playing against AI.

Im really impressed by the lack of cheating in AH, and I hope they manage to keep it free from it.

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« Reply #35 on: April 07, 2005, 02:36:49 PM »
oohhh it would be nice if 80% of music, film industry would fall.....


Can you imagine that you will be save from 80% of all those silly adv. and BS ?




There will be place for proper art on radio again ...

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« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2005, 02:43:17 PM »
You're right about the cheating part. It's death to MMOG business and it really should be outlawed.

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« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2005, 06:25:10 PM »
you guys keep talking about piracy but to me that's just an excuse.  I dont buy how some of you justify it.  In that same breath I think that the industry should police their own.  It shouldnt be technology makers job to make sure that their products are being used for legitimit purposes.

If a kidnapper uses duct tape to restrain a victim the victem doesnt sue 3M for making a good product.

This is scary that a mega huge industry with a bunch of lawyers might succeed in shaping the way technology evolves for the future.  If these guys had their way we would have NEVER had the VCR or at least never an easy to use version.  I could care less if they kill themselves through bad business practices but they are over stepping their bounds here.

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« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2005, 01:29:07 AM »
They already tried to mess up dvd by setting region codes. Fortunately most players can be hacked to bypass it.

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« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2005, 01:40:09 AM »
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This is scary that a mega huge industry with a bunch of lawyers might succeed in shaping the way technology evolves for the future.  If these guys had their way we would have NEVER had the VCR or at least never an easy to use version.  I could care less if they kill themselves through bad business practices but they are over stepping their bounds here.


Thats what you get when theres always the old type guys in the board, who are always afraid of new technology and doesn't know how to adapt into it.

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« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2005, 03:21:21 AM »
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Hmm, and this coming from the same person who said it is ok for MS to be a monopoly as that is what free enterprise is all about.
Ever looked at the profit margins MS has?


No kidding, if MS were a phone company they would have been broken up a long time ago
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« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2005, 05:29:25 AM »
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Hey... whatever you guys need to tell yourselves to sleep better at night.

Some people might comprehend the concept that if you don't like the prices a company charges or the company's buisness practices or the product they're selling then you would make it quite clear it's a product you are willing to do without. Stealing a product just legitimizes the company's practices and establishes the value of the product. Piracy is effectively empowering companies.

There is no excuse for piracy. If you're chosing to do it, you are the one that deserves what they get, not the company you are stealing from. It really is that simple.


What about the predatory and anti-competitive practises those organisations engage in to ensure we only listen to what they what us too?

For example, P2P is often cited by many small no name music groups as the perfect medium for them. Often those groups are left alone by the big corporates while they shove their canned crap down our throats. Its not just a case of if you don't like it don't buy it, they are trying to lock down an monopolize every bit of the business.

There is no excuse for predatory practises. If they chose to do it they ae the ones that deserve wat the get, not the consumers defending their rights. It really is that simple.

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« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2005, 06:11:47 AM »
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They've had it too good for too long!

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« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2005, 07:04:52 AM »
Just like Microsoft, eh Vulcan?

I do not recall anyone shoving entertainment down my throat.  Last time I checked, I had the choice to buy it or not to buy it.  If I like it, I buy it, if I don't I don't.

Where do you live that you are being forced to purchase entertainment?

If you do not like the business practices (speaking in general now), then vote with your wallet.  Seems pretty simple to me.  Of course, we all know people do not have enough gumption to actually follow through with that.
If you steal it, then all you are doing is saying you want it, but you do not want to pay for it and do not have enough strength of character to walk away from it.
Oh no, you want others to fix it for you, but in the meantime you will rant and rave so as to make you position appear to be legitimate.

The human capacity for rationalizing thier personal actions is simply amazing.

I'll never begrudge a company making a buck.  I do not consider slamming Microsoft for the gouging on what they deliver either, even though the product has far too many problems.
When it comes to my entertainment dollar, I find a lot of value in my DVD purchases.  Apparently, so do many others, which insures a good flow of the product. making it possible to see many films on DVD, which may not have been considered before.  Indeed, many older film classics are being brought to market completely restored.  Big bucks to do that, but I am glad to see it and gladly pay for it.
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« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2005, 07:18:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Vulcan
There is no excuse for predatory practises. If they chose to do it they ae the ones that deserve wat the get, not the consumers defending their rights. It really is that simple.
What right is being removed again? And how is stealing something defending a right? The Boston Tea party wasn't a rebellion where a bunch of people got together to steal tea because the British were charging too much for it. They dumped it all into the sea and we've been drinking coffee ever since.

Thankyou for proving my point for me vulcan. You don't get it because you don't want to.

Nobody is denying anyone technology. Nobody is denying anyone music.