How do you do it?

[mechanic]

i got a girl who takes care of all my noodle issues thanks.



i am asking you to fight me for scientific purposes, to see which style provides the bearer with more overall dogfighting skill.


obviously you're quite smart yourself and therefore already know the outcome......


please believe me when i say, i have nothing to proove to you or anyone.

and this isnt personal, i kinda think you're ok.

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by mechanic

please believe me when i say, i have nothing to proove to you or anyone.

 

Sure you do, you said so yourself. I, however, have nothing to prove. My posts are constructive and directly relate to the original questions posed by the original poster of this thread. Your posts are derogatory, inflamatory and a weak attempt to goad those who disagree with you or hold a diamterically opposed view into engaging in some sort of contrived contest to 'prove' something, what I have no clue...In any event I'm not interested, Have a nice day!

Zazen

[killnu]

sorry zaz if i touched a nerve.  just bugs me when somebody who admittedly sits in gv majority of time comments on how somebody else flies a plane.  its your dime, play how ya want.  nothing personal with you or how you  play, just one of those things that urks me.

i dont understand your beef with the da thing tho?  well, i guess i do, maybe.  you dont like DA fights, so you dont fly in them?  you prefer to have alt adv.and/or numbers, not 1vs1 coalt?    da does not have to be about measuring manhoods, just can be about fun, and that is what its about.  like you have said.

[mechanic]

'I' have nothing to proove of my own 'skill level'

what i am interestd in assertaining is if 'survivalist' flying is more likely to dominate ACM and hours of practice avoiding these survivalists.


i'm willing to bet money that even with a 5k alt advantage you could never lay a round on a pilot who flies for the adrenilin of the furball.



you talk about you tactics in furballs.


if you sit up high and cherry pick people in a furball, you are not furballing. you are cherry picking in a weak and dishonourable manner.

IMO.


you say you have nothing to proove, yet you continue to exclaim how super you are at killing without dying.

I am willing to put substance behind my argument, yet you say your words as if you already beat every 'pilot' in AH2 in a fair one on one fight.

we are talking about a dogfighting game here arnt we?

if two snooker/golf/chess players disagree on how to play, yet one refuses to proove his argument on the table/course/board which would you believe in more? the challenger or the coward?

I having nothing to proove, and nothing to lose.

you have everything to proove, and everything to lose.

I only want to find out which method works best, you maintain that your method is more intelligent and ultimately will always win.

if we fight and niether can shoot each other down but in the end you have to run to survive, then again i consider that a victory to my style as my enemy has gone home and poses no threat to my airfield/home land/family.


this is the sole reason you refuse to 'compare noodle size'



if you have nothing to proove why must you avoid a situation where your self proclaimed godly status may be disputed?

i say you have everything to proove or your words here mean squat.


i thank you for you kind gesture of desirering my day to be a 'nice' one, i will do my best to follow your advice.

you have a nice one too.

the simple fact here when we get down to reality is, just like your MA flying, you have spotted a situation where you are not 100% sure of a victory, and therefore you run away tail between legs. excelent work on here mate, you rtb'ed with minimal damage, only trouble being you left me flying with barely an elevator missing




PS: this is not a flame war HT, please do not lock this thread. I like zazy and i know he fancies my sister. we're best buds in reality

[SuperDud]

I don't do 'fights in a box' (DA) with anyone for noodle measuring purposes. For me the DA is a training tool to be used with friends and/or squadmates for educational purposes, you are niether...

I remember back in AW when you dueled to settle a dispute. Seems to me in AH, that the above is most peoples opinion of it. I laugh my butt off when I'm in MA and two guys are arguing, one say's lets go to the DA and he gets this response. Then, to my shock and amazement, many people begins to make fun of the challanger, calling him a chest thumping dweeb and the DA doesn't prove who the better pilot is?! Nothing better proves who the better pilot is than a 1vs1 fight with everything being equal. Seems now, all people want to do is run their mouths and not back it up. I think most are just to afraid to lose face and have to admit that someone beat them, I dunno, kinda makes me--->


Disclaimer: I used Zazen's quote but I am not accusing him of being one of these types. I've seen him mix it up below 5k in a P51 with cons overhead. He's even saved my butt a few times so I can vouch for him. Some truely do only use the DA for training and fun. What I stated above is for the guys who talk trash, get challanged and then refuse.

[mechanic]

Originally posted by SuperDud
I remember back in AW when you dueled to settle a dispute. Seems to me in AH, that the above is most peoples opinion of it. I laugh my butt off when I'm in MA and two guys are arguing, one say's lets go to the DA and he gets this response. Then, to my shock and amazement, many people begins to make fun of the challanger, calling him a chest thumping dweeb and the DA doesn't prove who the better pilot is?! Nothing better proves who the better pilot is than a 1vs1 fight with everything being equal. Seems now, all people want to do is run their mouths and not back it up. I think most are just to afraid to lose face and have to admit that someone beat them, I dunno, kinda makes me--->


Disclaimer: I used Zazen's quote but I am not accusing him of being one of these types. I've seen him mix it up below 5k in a P51 with cons overhead. He's even saved my butt a few times so I can vouch for him. Some truely do only use the DA for training and fun. What I stated above is for the guys who talk trash, get challanged and then refuse.

AMEN


i wasnt targeting Zazen at first either if you look back up the miles of text.
he took it personally, as maybe i did when someone called TnB'ing a past time of 'weak intelects', and ran off with his toys without proper closure of the matter.

can only assume he knows more than me and can predict the outcome.

im confident i can win any fight, but prooving it is whats makes the difference.

and losing gracefully.......

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by SuperDud



Disclaimer: I used Zazen's quote but I am not accusing him of being one of these types. I've seen him mix it up below 5k in a P51 with cons overhead. He's even saved my butt a few times so I can vouch for him. Some truely do only use the DA for training and fun. What I stated above is for the guys who talk trash, get challanged and then refuse.

Damnit SuperDud! Fourteen years of carefully cultivating my image as an exclusively high-alt cherry picker and you ruin it all in one post! You Bastard! Now instead of people hunting me in vein at 45k they are going to go where I really am, down low with my bellybutton in the grass killing their buddies and saving my teammates... Thanks alot...


Zazen

[mechanic]

Originally posted by Zazen13
Damnit SuperDud! Fourteen years of carefully cultivating my image as an exclusively high-alt cherry picker and you ruin it all in one post! You Bastard! Now instead of people hunting me in vein at 45k they are going to go where I really am, down low with my bellybutton in the grass killing their buddies and saving my teammates... Thanks alot...


Zazen

what a load of carefully crafted crapola.

after all that talk you now want me to believe you are infact a devil mare care, down in the watermelon furballer?

survivalist or fight junky? which one?



(edit: waiting for zazen to tell me he doesnt want 'me' to belive anything about him)

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by mechanic
what a load of carefully crafted crapola.

after all that talk you now want me to believe you are infact a devil mare care, down in the watermelon furballer?

survivalist or fight junky? which one?



(edit: waiting for zazen to tell me he doesnt want 'me' to belive anything about him)

I'm both, they are not mutually exclusive as I've said. You can fight smart and low. It's a mindset not a restictive tactical dogma never to be stretched or even broken on occassion as tactical prudence and discretion dicates.

Zazen

[Siaf__csf]

I think zazen is just trying to politely tell you that he kicks bellybutton with both styles of the game. Meaning he knows how to play the game right and you don't. Right?

[mechanic]

then shoot me down in the DA for fun.  no rules, no alt limit, you can HO.

what is it to be


siaf, whats your ingame cpid?

[Siaf__csf]

Why, you want to meet me in DA?

I don't have an account atm. just occasionally fly at h2h.

I flew MA last time in 2002 actively.

[mechanic]

stfu up then

[mechanic]

Originally posted by Zazen13
I'm both, they are not mutually exclusive as I've said. You can fight smart and low. It's a mindset not a restictive tactical dogma never to be stretched or even broken on occassion as tactical prudence and discretion dicates.

Zazen

in that case why do you insist on saying i am not;

A) smart enough to fly like you

B) confident enough about my manhood, or lack of.

and that i am;

C) a "disgruntled detractor with an axe to grind"




look to the start of this, i simply wanted to beat you, or fail in trying in a FAIR fight.

when was your last fair fight?

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by mechanic
in that case why do you insist on saying i am not;

A) smart enough to fly like you

B) confident enough about my manhood, or lack of.

and that i am;

C) a "disgruntled detractor with an axe to grind"




look to the start of this, i simply wanted to beat you, or fail in trying in a FAIR fight.

when was your last fair fight?

I have fair fights all the time. Just 20 minutes ago I beat a Yak with my P47D40 on the deck in a 1 on 1 turn-fight, I even had 100% internal fuel and a full ammoload...I won't name names but it was definately not a noob..

Ask Jozepi on Bish how his La7 faired 3 times in a row one night vs. my P51D, 1 vs. 1, down low co-alt/co-E. The truth will hurt...

Mechanic we will meet in similiar circumstances in good time, just be patient and be prepared to be suprised, that will be far more exciting than a 'fight in a box' in the DA. Things like this keeps me wanting to play. I look forward to the day we meet each other in the MA, whatever the outcome, and I will not say a word if I happen to spank your bare ass...


Zazen