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Offline DamnedRen

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« Reply #150 on: April 11, 2005, 06:39:16 PM »
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Ren. STFU.

Do you even have a clue who or what you are deffending? I doubt it.

I still defend everyone to be able to play the gamethey way they want without pinheads like you saying they're chumps. You don't have enough sense to understand the guy is having as much fun yanking yer chain and he does dragging people away from his buds then bailing. LOL

You cant even keep your tiny brain on track long enough to make a credible jab towards me. If your going to throw punches, start making them count. Or again, you can always just pack it. :)

I only apologized for the 50 kill quote. You're still a big ego'd lard butt and that still doesn't change my opinion of you. Be any type of low life you wanna be. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You can bark all ya want. Anything you have to say to me now falls on deaf ears.

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« Reply #151 on: April 12, 2005, 04:37:25 AM »
I am the bestest evar, you all suck!

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« Reply #152 on: April 12, 2005, 05:16:25 AM »
Puh long thread, i am just to lazy to read it all.

Don't look to much at K/D, K/S or K/T, if you are just out there to get whatever ratio it will usually reduce you fun alot.
I speak from my own experience, when i started with AH and got used to the FM, i went out there and wanted a nice K/D in my D9. After a while it gets real painful. Why? Because if you set a new record once you want to get even better in the next tour. And so try to avoid any death, becoming really timid.
Your flying suffers because you tend to pick easy fights, cause you are just out there to reach a certain ratio and no longer to have exiting and challanging duels.

After getting back to AH2 i started it all different, i wanted fun, good fights and though i still fly to survive, scores mean nothing to me any more. If i die well, np here i go again. It's just a click.
And i must say, that i am a much better stick now than back in the days when i went for high K/Ds and have much more fun.
I am still clued to my "dweeb" ride D9, but that is because it is just my absoluted favoured WW2 fighter.
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« Reply #153 on: April 14, 2005, 01:56:06 PM »
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Originally posted by Morpheus
HOLLY HELL we're still here?

Well lets get down to bizz.

x002308974Marine.

 

First off. Your a newbie. I know guys whome have been in flight sims for the past 10 years. And they are still upping thier game.

1 in particular is usually ranked in the top 2-3 as fighter. This is impressive to me only in his case because I know he doesnt try. He's just that much better.

There's many, MANY ways to "mix things up" in this game without playing like you, a chump.

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Ya think???

It doesnt take someone such as me, with my vast knowledge and immense intelect to see that flying for 5-10-15 minutes to a fight only to bail is a waste of time. I'm very glad you've gotten to the point in your game that you can see that.


But if after three months, you've gained more out of this game and gotten farther than I've gotten out of the years I've been here... Good for you. I'm glad. And I'm hopful you will leave soon.

It scares me to think, that this is what flight sims have become, namely Aces High.

But I am glad that there are still those who see that crap like this will not be overlooked. With the exception of Ren. Who just refuses to see the obvious.

So the saying goes. You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink. Ren...

Some new players are a real joy to work with.

Two stick out in my mind right now. Superdud, and Megadud. The venerable Aces High psychotic duo. I had more fun flying with these two and helping them than anyone I've ever given a bit of advice to. They enjoyed "the fight" and the thrills that come along with it. And were there to learn and greatful for someone to take the time to teach them. Every night almost you could find them in a fight somwhere. Giving it there absolute best.

x009028349Marine falls off and these two pick up.

You dont care about learning. If you did want to learn you wouldnt give up excellent learning oportunities by avoiding a death and being shot down, and avoiding mistakes by not having the oportunities to make them.

Foolish if you ask me. But then again. Your at the top of your game arent you.

Ren. STFU.

Do you even have a clue who or what you are deffending? I doubt it.

You cant even keep your tiny brain on track long enough to make a credible jab towards me. If your going to throw punches, start making them count. Or again, you can always just pack it. :)


You're a noob. So there.

'Learn" what?.. this particular game?.. plenty of time for that, not to mention "learning" is relative at best, if I'm learning to survive better.. yeaay for me and my $14.95. I've "learned" gamer dogfighting in other sims, I see no huge point in playing this game the same way.

I've practiced dogfighting in several other games, or "learned" make believe on-line dogfighting techniques, big deal, it just takes a bit of practice at this one... "learn" lol that's funny.

And someone hit the nail on the head, I do indeed have fun frustrating and chain yanking other gamers. I laugh when 5 dudes all chase me 1/2 sector away from my team mates only to watch as I bail succesfully. lol @ them. I can hear them yelling "coward" or opining I'm less of a man because I decided to F with them rather than try some disckweed "net man" stunt and sword fight my little imaginary plane to the death. I did that at first and it was fun for a while, but you could say I 'learned' that there are plenty of stupid anuses that will chase you all over the map... so concerned with getting a kill they'll leave thier team mates high & dry.

So yea, I get a kick out of depriving them of shooting my plane full of holes.. and I think that frustration has spilled over onto the BBS... maybe these guys think that by calling me names and challenging me to a skills competition I'll get upset and change... lol... nope. It's obvious how upsetting this is, and frankly I'm enjoying it.


This really is just a difference in philosophy, some of these guys with 50lbs of mouth who live with mommy can't comprehend that this game doesn't mean the same thing to everyone... and all the screaming you can muster won't force anyone to conform to your way of thinking. The world is bigger than your room lined with Eric Estrada posters little guy.

Last month I had fun dogfighting getting a feel for this game as opposed to others, this month it's a focus on surviving, frustration, and suckering.. and I am definately getting my $14.95 of enjoyment.. with zero concern to what anyone else thinks I should be doing.

You play this game your way, I'll do the same.. if we're each having fun, what's the difference?.. oh yea, I'm not playing your way, well damm.. your just gonna have to live with that. I realize you think because you have XX number of years invested in this game and have practiced much more you think your opinion carries extra weight, or that 'noobs' should listen to you.. lol, sorry, new to this game but not to gaming, or flight sims..  and frankly you havent written much of anything that reflects any extra insight... learn for my mistakes?, lol ooook, if I feel like it. I prefer to call them calulated risks.

If I really feel like it I can practice dogfighting all the time, but I don't find that as fun.

I really hate to tell you this but there's nothing important going on here, gaming is all about calculated risks.. and having some fun making them... win some, lose some.

Nobody, not even you oh great all knowing AH greaybeard, will ever be perfect... so you go ahead and learn from your mistakes, and I'll laugh beer out my nose watching 5 dudes chase me all over the map.

And really, it's not that hard for me to rack up more kills than deaths.. even being a 'noob', a sim is a sim is a sim.. if I cared all that much I'd concentrate on being one of the best fighter gamers in AH, "learning" blah blah, but I'm in it for my personal enjoyment.. and I enjoy what I'm doing these days.

Oh and by the way; lol

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« Reply #154 on: April 14, 2005, 04:41:07 PM »
hahahah the mother of all flame wars.

this is of the old school, possible the last of its kind..... :(


....but due to your new local flamers anon. officers, we can all live in a better world!



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« Reply #155 on: April 14, 2005, 05:51:13 PM »
Sometimes people do get a little outrageous with the chasedowns.

For example I had to rtb in a 109 about a week ago because I got a phone call I had to take in the real world, and some dipsh*t followed me for about a sector back to my home field. So he follows me about 5 mins at about 800 back in an LA7, never gaining, never takes a shot either, even though I'm flying straight and level for the most part while I'm talking on the phone.  

Finally he peels off and launches a little diatribe on 200, and I'm thinking what kind of a bonehead lamer must this guy be.

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« Reply #156 on: April 14, 2005, 06:17:54 PM »
To bring those just arriving up to speed:

{1} x0847marine is a confirmed dolt/putz... (he runs and bails alot)

{2} Ren comes in a close 2nd... (a lawyer attempting to defend said "run and bailer")

INcredible!

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« Reply #157 on: April 14, 2005, 06:26:43 PM »
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Originally posted by DipStick
To bring those just arriving up to speed:

{1} x0847marine is a confirmed dolt/putz... (he runs and bails alot)

{2} Ren comes in a close 2nd... (a lawyer attempting to defend said "run and bailer")

INcredible!

Thanks for the clarification there Dipstick, I was geting lost. But I'd like to clarify one small point even further. x0847marine doesn't just run and then bail, he plays for the sole purpose of agravating other players by his own admission.

I know it is his right to play how he wants, but I figure you should be able to piss folks off without spenging $14.95 per month. Being an a-hole is free after all...LOL.

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« Reply #158 on: April 14, 2005, 07:10:42 PM »
lol,

What a post.
I just want to give a small point of view......

Ren, . You have always been top notch. If I were a better fiter pilot in here I would say it is all because of the training from selfless sticks such as yourself.

If you ever look at me score, no one that has given me tips will probably admit it.. LOL

...and one guy said, "when you can laugh and re-up when you get shot down, you will start to learn more, and have more fun."

MY 14.95 goes to more fun. And we all get to choose that.

Happy Hunting Gents,
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« Reply #159 on: April 14, 2005, 08:43:55 PM »
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Originally posted by Morpheus
HOLLY HELL we're still here?

Well lets get down to bizz.

x002308974Marine.

 

First off. Your a newbie. I know guys whome have been in flight sims for the past 10 years. And they are still upping thier game.

1 in particular is usually ranked in the top 2-3 as fighter. This is impressive to me only in his case because I know he doesnt try. He's just that much better.

There's many, MANY ways to "mix things up" in this game without playing like you, a chump.

2nd
 

Ya think???

It doesnt take someone such as me, with my vast knowledge and immense intelect to see that flying for 5-10-15 minutes to a fight only to bail is a waste of time. I'm very glad you've gotten to the point in your game that you can see that.


But if after three months, you've gained more out of this game and gotten farther than I've gotten out of the years I've been here... Good for you. I'm glad. And I'm hopful you will leave soon.

It scares me to think, that this is what flight sims have become, namely Aces High.

But I am glad that there are still those who see that crap like this will not be overlooked. With the exception of Ren. Who just refuses to see the obvious.

So the saying goes. You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink. Ren...

Some new players are a real joy to work with.

Two stick out in my mind right now. Superdud, and Megadud. The venerable Aces High psychotic duo. I had more fun flying with these two and helping them than anyone I've ever given a bit of advice to. They enjoyed "the fight" and the thrills that come along with it. And were there to learn and greatful for someone to take the time to teach them. Every night almost you could find them in a fight somwhere. Giving it there absolute best.

x009028349Marine falls off and these two pick up.

You dont care about learning. If you did want to learn you wouldnt give up excellent learning oportunities by avoiding a death and being shot down, and avoiding mistakes by not having the oportunities to make them.

Foolish if you ask me. But then again. Your at the top of your game arent you.

Ren. STFU.

Do you even have a clue who or what you are deffending? I doubt it.

You cant even keep your tiny brain on track long enough to make a credible jab towards me. If your going to throw punches, start making them count. Or again, you can always just pack it. :)



never  knew watermelon came out both ends, seems it does in your case Morph.

I was fine with this whole thread up til the
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Ren. STFU.
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now you are  rolling your ego

bout time this thread got locked


oh, and in reference to kj714's question.  I don't  is to boring.  marine if you want help to expand  and find more interesting things to do in Aces High, join us in Scenario's, KOTH tournaments,  snap shots, there is more to Aces High than just flying around the Main arena bailing out at will!



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« Last Edit: April 14, 2005, 08:54:40 PM by TequilaChaser »
"When one considers just what they should say to a new pilot who is logging in Aces High, the mind becomes confused in the complex maze of info it is necessary for the new player to know. All of it is important; most of it vital; and all of it just too much for one brain to absorb in 1-2 lessons" TC

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« Reply #160 on: April 14, 2005, 09:01:55 PM »
If you dont like my opinions. Well, thats too bad then isn't it?

Ren seems to take it personaly that I dont agree with his.

Seems the ones who matter tend to agree with me.

Question though.

Do you trainers incorporate this type of game play into your program?

Im worried... Ren being a trainer, and him agreeing with the act  bailing under presure or when the fight starts to turn on you... It doesnt take a genious like me to put 2 and 2 together. I hope I am not putting together all the wrong pieces in that respect. I have the utmost respect for the AH trainers. But when one of you agrees with this kind of degenerate baby seal behavior, I get worried.

Again, just a question.

TC, have you read this thread start to finish?

Im sure, knowing you, you will say yes, and my actually have not. Its ok to lie to me, but lieing to yourself will do you no good.

Do you know what your agreeing with and sticking up for? Im not talking about telling Ren to stfu and you feeling the need to stand tall beside him, your squad mate. I'm speaking in regards to the argument at hand now. Again, you'd have to read the entire thread to understand whats going on. I hope you haven't.

Again. Just another question.

Maybe the damned really are in fact damned?

Again. Just another question.

With guys like Ren, agreeing to this kind of game play. One can only worry about where the game is going yet at the same time hope that it can only get better.

Its curious. Ren says he doesnt let this kind of thing bother him. Is he playing in his own tiny bubble? Sort of a mini-MA? That of which he himself is his own world, his own enemy, his own...?

hmmmm.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2005, 09:04:14 PM by Morpheus »
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« Reply #161 on: April 14, 2005, 09:17:05 PM »
Straight Up Morph,  I have been reading the whole thread

my opinion,  not as an AH trainer, but as a community member, I  despize gamers, chickenchits, and Ho'ers who do not take the time to learn the capabilitys of the plane/GV/boat they fly/maneuver and revert to gamey tactics. ( let me edit and add to this first part, I despize those that have been here for a significant length of time and not  took it upon themselves to fill their noodle with the readily available knowledge at hand to learn from!!! hope that makes it clearer)

but I will not  knowingly try to tell another how to play their game. It does happen and I have done it, but I do not purposely do it.

I rather encourage one to play differently or  learn better tactics.

I have no beef with you Morph, I never replyed to this post until now because it looked like the steam had died down and all was well.

to me it looked as you was wanting to rekindle the fire.

No Damned and no AH Trainer will or would commend the actions marine spoke of in this thread.  but in the same token none would tell one how he should play his game.

taunting is one thing,  and yes I am starting to ramble so I will cut it short.

am sort of tired at all the STFU, FU, GD, Fkng Pzzy,  crap words, masked vulgarity  and  wish people did not feel the need to express their real life persona in text everytime they had to type a reply.


that bout sums up my 0.02 cents worth I hope;)

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« Last Edit: April 15, 2005, 01:11:27 AM by TequilaChaser »
"When one considers just what they should say to a new pilot who is logging in Aces High, the mind becomes confused in the complex maze of info it is necessary for the new player to know. All of it is important; most of it vital; and all of it just too much for one brain to absorb in 1-2 lessons" TC

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« Reply #162 on: April 14, 2005, 09:18:12 PM »
Yes Ren its his 15 Bucks.  Yes he is intitled to bail under pressure if he chooses to do so.

But no matter what you or any others say its still complete chicken watermelon flying and will be dealt with on this BB for the complete crap that it is.

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« Reply #163 on: April 14, 2005, 11:34:31 PM »
If some of you want MA gameplay to continue it's freefall, then fine, we'll shutup.  But if you are as sick of the gamey-hording timidity of the MA as most of us vets are, then how can you sit by and not try to convince someone that what he is doing is bad for gameplay?  I think we have to call the weak stuff out loudly not just in here, but especially on 200 in the game as it happens.  I was riding a certain timid la7 j0ck pretty hard tonight for his typical climb to 20k over a field, dive in to get a couple easy vulches and run home routine.  Should I have kept quiet and let him and any who admire his l337 skills to encourage this crap?  I don't think so.

And this isn't me saying others have to fly my way, because we each have a unique style and I would never wish someone to do what I want them to do.  However, we pay $15 a month and log in to fight people and have fun; gaming the game or being hopelessly timid is neither fun nor fighting.

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« Reply #164 on: April 15, 2005, 12:36:13 AM »
TC, my last post was two days ago.

Up until your post. I was done.

Was...

Had you have let it go, as you should have, we would have moved on.

Marine knows he's lame, Ren knows he's wrong. I win. Very simple.

I have not nor have ever told someone how to fly. I simply state the obvious and along with that, my opinion.

If they dont like that, as I've said before, thats too bad.

Marine is lame. Very simple TC. He feels that his "game" is at the top. So in looking for "another way to elevate his game" he is bailing out in order to try and preserve his k/d. What he does not understand is that a proxie kill is still a kill and is recorded as such. Hes bailing when thing's are not looking good for him and before he gets shot down, he bails. That's lame. Not to mention a pathetic attempt to hold some sort of a decent K/D.

This is the best example of bad game play I think I have seen... Ever. Not to mention the fact that its just the dumbest thing I've ever seen... Because he's foolish enough to think that bailing out and giving someone a proxie kill wont do his K/D any harm.
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