Kill stealing

[SlapShot]

With today's planes that can fly for a period of time ... while on fire ... they will die to my guns if given the chance ... you shoulda finished him off. With that, more often than not, the guy that did cause the fire does get the kill, I get the assist, so I don't feel that bad.

Simple solutuion ... well maybe ...

If(current damage >= catastrophic damage) then
{
   turn off the damaged planes guns
   stop collecting damage info
   award damage to pilot that caused the most damage
}

At this point the whole friggin' air force could unload on him ... make him explode ... whatever ... only the original pilot that cause the most damage, that eventually was the root cause of the catastrophic damage, gets the kill.

catastrophic damage = missing wing(s), missing empanage, missing elevator(s) ... plane will just not fly and is destined to meet mother earth no matter what you try to do.

turn off damaged planes guns ... only in a game would someone in this position even think of firing guns hoping to hit something. Just too gamey for me. Your dead or gonna be dead if you don't bail ... no time to shoot.

[Oleg]

Originally posted by SlapShot
Simple solutuion ... well maybe ...
If(current damage >= catastrophic damage) then
{
   turn off the damaged planes guns
   stop collecting damage info
   award damage to pilot that caused the most damage
}

I pretty sure Pyro or somebody else from HTC already said what he did or want to do that.

Originally posted by SlapShot
catastrophic damage = ... missing elevator(s) ...

Do you joke? You can easy run away w/o every control surfaces and land in safe (if you in more faster plane of course and with piece of luck).
Catastrophic damage must be missing whole wing or tail (both horizontal and vertical stabs) only.

btw, i dont see the problems with kill stealing at all. That is very rare thing in my AH practice in contrast to WarBirds.

[Blammo]

Originally posted by Oleg
>>Originally posted by SlapShot
catastrophic damage = ... missing elevator(s) ... <<

Do you joke? You can easy run away w/o every control surfaces and land in safe (if you in more faster plane of course and with piece of luck).
Catastrophic damage must be missing whole wing or tail (both horizontal and vertical stabs) only.

You can keep flying controllably without your elevator(s)?  I am not talking about just one of two, but having no elevator control at all?  If so, I'd love to learn that one.

[AKDogg]

I have landed a f6f without elevators alrdy.  I had to use all throttle control to start the decent.

[Oleg]

Originally posted by Blammo
You can keep flying controllably without your elevator(s)?  I am not talking about just one of two, but having no elevator control at all?  If so, I'd love to learn that one.

Yes, its possible - you can use rudder and ailerons instead. Dont sure if trims still work in that case, seems they do.
Of course, you will completely lose manoeuvrability.

[Elfie]

Catastrophic damage must be missing whole wing or tail (both horizontal and vertical stabs) only.

Lose either both Horizontal stabs OR the vertical stab and you are going down....dont need to lose all three for catastrophic damage.

[Aubrey]

I give any person who is flying on my side in a furball permission to shoot at any plane I am fighting at anytime, all the time without fail. Get him down and out of our hair.  move on to the next.

[Oleg]

Originally posted by Elfie
Lose either both Horizontal stabs OR the vertical stab and you are going down....dont need to lose all three for catastrophic damage.

Dont sure about horizontal stabs, but flight w/o vertical stab is possible. May be not for all planes and not in every cases and it is hard enough especially at landing, but it still possible.

[Flit]

Originally posted by Elfie
Lose either both Horizontal stabs OR the vertical stab and you are going down....dont need to lose all three for catastrophic damage.

 Yep, I've landed many times in many planes with no rudder-
Missing ele's is another matter:D

[Arcades057]

Chased down an La7 last night, using up a fair amount of my ammo to hit him.  Finally got him a couple times, saw tracers flying to my right so I banked, wit WEP, dove... only to see a countryman snag the kill--I didn't even get the assist.

Flew a pony for about thirty minutes to get alt to hit an enemy field, chased a con to the ground, pursued him for a few, got some nice hit sprites and smoked him...  Another countryman snagged the kill--got an assist this time.

Went after a formation of B-24s from low, hit sprites and had to pull off after smoking the lead.  Another Bish moved in and clipped the three...  No assist.

Flew for 20-30 minutes last night without seeing a con so I bailed, only to get the message "@#$%^* shot you down."
No ping, no con nearby--hadn't even seen one the whole flight.

Flying out of a high alt Bish field and spied a Goony.  Went toward him, laughing, and he crashed into the cliff.  I got the kill.  I didn't fire on him, I wasn't closer than 3k and there was another Bish on his six, yet I got the kill.

Granted, I am a bit new here, but the kill recording system--a vanity, I know--seems a bit off.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by JB82
I propose that when you do enough damage to a enemy plane that he is visibly on fire or missing a wing and a countrymen insist on fireing at your kill that your countrymen be treated as a killshooter.

When I was still in Knitwitlandia, there was a flight I was on where the same guy tried to steal my kill twice.

The first time I was fighting a Spitfire V and managed to blow his tail off in a hard fought low speed turn fight.  As the Spitfire V tumbles down to the ground, this mighty hero of Knitwitlandia comes swooping down on the Spitfire.  On one of its tumble rotations, the pilot in the Spitfire V fires off his guns and actually nails the mighty hero of Knitwitlandia and blows him up.  Not to be thwarted in his quest to steal a kill, our mighty hero of Knitlandia takes off again and soon finds himself on the wrong end of another Spitfires guns.  Tired of hearing his screams and pleas for help, I come to the rescue of our valiant hero and clear the Spitfire from his six.  As the Spitfire gently floats down to the ground, our valiant hero then pulls up into a loop and swoops down on the poor Spitfire and promptly overshoots and augers into the side of the mountain.  Thus ended his quest on the mountain side of A1.


ack-ack

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by MwDogg
I have landed a f6f without elevators alrdy.  I had to use all throttle control to start the decent.

What I really meant to say was "horizontal stabs" ... once those are gone, you ain't going anywhere but DOWN.

I have landed a plane without the vertical stab. T'was tricky but it can be done.

[Morpheus]

I am all for the stealing of kills.

I promote it, practice it, and cherish it.

[pellik]

Originally posted by SlapShot
What I really meant to say was "horizontal stabs" ... once those are gone, you ain't going anywhere but DOWN.

I have landed a plane without the vertical stab. T'was tricky but it can be done.

How?

[Don]

>>Granted, I am a bit new here, but the kill recording system--a vanity, I know--seems a bit off.<<

Arcade:
Based on what you describe, I say you are dead on the money
Geez! I have had nights like that and came away convinced that something smelled like overcooked pork in the game
But, other nights are very different...go figger