Author Topic: I'm Not Moving to Scandanavia After All... (Read 2505 times)

Nilsen · « **Reply #120 on:** April 19, 2005, 09:33:52 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
nielsen... what do you do for a living?

lazs

I move paper around and answer calls, emails and faxes. I also do the marketing.

why?

Nilsen · « **Reply #121 on:** April 19, 2005, 09:35:07 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Yeah, it proved to be absolutely brilliant in the late '30's, didn't it?

It's OK, we've got you covered.

Who knows Toad.

Fishu · « **Reply #122 on:** April 19, 2005, 09:52:30 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
As for deployment, where would we go? A conscript army is a defensive army, it has no reason to deploy elsewhere.

The US doesn't deploy elsewhere either and their army is a defensive army too.
They use the so called pre-emptive defense.

Steve · « **Reply #123 on:** April 19, 2005, 11:53:45 AM »

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act is that when EU gains more power.....

You better change this to "IF"... notice it's a big if.

The EU is barely held together and is a fractious lot.
I think if the EU can raise the standard of living for all it's citizens that it's a great idea. I also think that such a huge organization w/ such a diverse group of people, combined w/ the histories of said people, dooms the EU to failure.
OTOH the paranoia you Euro's feel about the U.S. might just be the tie that binds.
To whit: The Spanish leader's main argument that Spain needs to vote "YES" on the EU was that a "NO" vote would be good for the U.S.
Your Euro leaders have to get over their noodle envy. Europe has so much to offer in the form of history, culture, etc that the U.S. will never have, I personally don't see what the jealousy is all about.

Nilsen · « **Reply #124 on:** April 19, 2005, 11:56:48 AM »

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Originally posted by Steve
I also think that such a huge organization w/ such a diverse group of people, combined w/ the histories of said people, dooms the EU to failure.

That sounds like USA to me

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #125 on:** April 19, 2005, 11:56:55 AM »

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Originally posted by Steve
You better change this to "IF"... notice it's a big if.

The EU is barely held together and is a fractious lot.
I think if the EU can raise the standard of living for all it's citizens that it's a great idea. I also think that such a huge organization w/ such a diverse group of people, combined w/ the histories of said people, dooms the EU to failure.
OTOH the paranoia you Euro's feel about the U.S. might just be the tie that binds.
To whit: The Spanish leader's main argument that Spain needs to vote "YES" on the EU was that a "NO" vote would be good for the U.S.
Your Euro leaders have to get over their noodle envy. Europe has so much to offer in the form of history, culture, etc that the U.S. will never have, I personally don't see what the jealousy is all about.

one word "POWER"

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #126 on:** April 19, 2005, 11:58:11 AM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
That sounds like USA to me

Not at all.

Nilsen · « **Reply #127 on:** April 19, 2005, 11:58:27 AM »

What "power" would that be?

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #128 on:** April 19, 2005, 12:00:26 PM »

No blood for pizza.

Steve · « **Reply #129 on:** April 19, 2005, 12:44:58 PM »

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That sounds like USA to me

There is some small commonality there but we do not have several Govt's trying to merge, you do.... very challenging IMHO.

It just seems silly to me that some of the Euro's feel the need to merge in order to compete w/ the US militarily. Not that they couldn't build a comparable or even superior force, numbers wise, just that they feel the need to do so in the first place. I know, many of you Euro's use the laughable guise of "we need to be able to counter the US militarily because they are an aggressive nation". As I said, I think it's envy on the part of some of your leaders.

I'm indifferent to the whole military thing. If it makes the Euro leadership happy to have 10 billion million trillion troops under one "flag" I say bully for them. I don't really see the need, unless some Euro leaders are secretly hoping/planning to oppose US policy in the world militarily.

If I am proven to be mistaken and the EU succeeds AND the masses of the EU benefit by achieving a higher standard of living, I will stand up and applaud.

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #130 on:** April 19, 2005, 12:59:24 PM »

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can any of you euros tell me how many Americans starved to death before our fairly recent welfare system kicked in?

Terri Schiavo.

Here's a troll of a website for you:

http://www.michaelparenti.org/HiddenHolocaust.html

Nilsen · « **Reply #131 on:** April 19, 2005, 01:00:11 PM »

Just for the record. Norway is not part of the EU and I will continue to vote no every time it comes up.

I don't think its envy that makes the EU nations want to have a force or rather a command structure that is separate from NATO. Most of the EU nations are also part of NATO so its not to compete with their own allies.

lazs2 · « **Reply #132 on:** April 19, 2005, 01:07:53 PM »

siaf gets the prize. He correctly identified all the U.S. citizens who have starved to death before or after our welfare system kiked in.

lazs

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #133 on:** April 19, 2005, 01:15:01 PM »

It's very rare for people to starve to death in any country lazs. The number forced to crime for food is another discussion.

Lazs we're not trying to force out system to you any more than you're trying to force yours to us. I think it's quite a comfortable setting (at least for us) to have the option to migrate for aggressive moneymaking with having a backup plan in store.

Some people return naked through the consulate, having lost everything. They won't end up on the street on our system. Yours I'm not that sure.

lazs2 · « **Reply #134 on:** April 19, 2005, 02:16:25 PM »

you mean how many who know they are freezing to death actually do and how many are turned away from emergency wards?

lazs