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Offline SunTracker

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What is corner velocity for P47D11?
« on: April 18, 2005, 05:41:58 PM »
What is the corner velocity for the P47D11?

Offline dtango

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What is corner velocity for P47D11?
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2005, 05:47:23 PM »
It depends.  What fuel load are you interested in?  I'm not at home right now but would be happy to do a quick check when I get a chance.

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What is corner velocity for P47D11?
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2005, 06:36:26 PM »
does it matter

Offline SunTracker

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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2005, 07:20:07 PM »
Yes it matters Yucca.  

Calculate it for 25% fuel load please.

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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2005, 08:00:37 PM »
TSPD* per sec.


















*TSPD= Two Speeds Past Death

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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2005, 08:18:37 PM »
And why does it matter.

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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2005, 08:48:16 PM »
It matters for two reasons-  Reason (1) The P-47D11 is the plane that I murder people with in the dueling arena (2) The P-47D11 is my perk earner in the MA.  

Trying to tweak my performance in it.

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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2005, 09:55:58 PM »
lol

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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2005, 10:10:20 PM »
Well, judging by the speed YUCCA seems to fly it at in the MA I'd say somewhere around 120mph. :)

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Re: What is corner velocity for P47D11?
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2005, 10:13:20 PM »
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Originally posted by SunTracker
What is the corner velocity for the P47D11?


A bit more than an African Swallow.
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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2005, 11:08:42 PM »
P-47D-11
(assuming 6g load limit in AH)

Fuel Load: 25%
Configuration: Clean
Alt: Near SL
Corner Velocity: ~ 235 mph (TAS)

Here's the instantaneous turn doghouse plot:


This is my estimate basis some quick flight testing offline.  There is a margin of error.  For a more thorough EM analysis you'll need someone like Badboy to do a more accurate job of this including analysis of the Ps curve for sustained turn performance.

Hope that helps!

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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2005, 12:17:50 PM »
As someone who's spent a good deal of time in the p48d11, I second yucca's question of why does corner velocity matter.

The d11 is a stall fighter, maintaining some  fast flat turn isn't going to do you squat good.

Instantanious turn charts for the 47d11 we have in AH need to include flap deployment to be useful.

-p.

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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2005, 01:07:44 PM »
If you find yourself relying on a set speed to manuever around an enemy you've already lost the fight IMO.  What happens when you can't attain that speed, give up?

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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2005, 02:16:55 PM »
Lefty,

I thought when we got that slow we just opened the canopy and tossed out our dirty under ware to block the enimies wind screen.
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Re: Re: What is corner velocity for P47D11?
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2005, 02:35:22 PM »
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A bit more than an African Swallow.
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