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Offline Elfie

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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2005, 06:33:26 PM »
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Yeah bush mentioned the other stuff but it was not the "Main" reason we went in.


When I recall the speeches Bush made about going to war with Iraq, I recall him listing multiple reasons each and every time. I do not recall him saying that WMD was the main reason, or that any of the other reasons he gave was a main reason.

Personally, I looked at the entire list of reasons and never singled out one as a MAIN reason. I never thought Bush had a MAIN reason either.

For me, just the fact that after Bush declared war on terrorism, Saddam's support of terrorists was more than enough justification for me, WMD or not. I guess if I had to pick a MAIN reason, it would be Saddam's support of terrorism.
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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2005, 06:42:01 PM »
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Originally posted by john9001
the MAIN reason bush resumed the 91 war was that saddam did not comply with the cease fire terms of 1991.

no food for oil.


Thats a very good point. 12 years after the first ceasefire and Saddam was still not in full compliance with several UN resolutions, especially in regards to his compliance with UN weapons inspectors and giving FULL disclosure on his WMD programs.
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2005, 06:43:38 PM »
Almost forgot....300,000+ found in mass graves so far.....kinda puts to rest the argument that America has killed more Iraqis than Saddam.
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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2005, 06:47:33 PM »
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Originally posted by john9001
the MAIN reason bush resumed the 91 war was that saddam did not comply with the cease fire terms of 1991.

no food for oil.


you mean as revenge for daddy getting his bellybutton handed to him??? :p
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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2005, 06:51:42 PM »
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Originally posted by vorticon
you mean as revenge for daddy getting his bellybutton handed to him??? :p


bush sr destroyed the 4th largest army in the world, remember the "battle hardened republican guard"?
 
explane how bush sr got "his bellybutton handed to him"
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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2005, 06:52:25 PM »
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Originally posted by vorticon
you mean as revenge for daddy getting his bellybutton handed to him??? :p



Uhh...maybe I missed something, but when did that happen?
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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2005, 08:11:14 PM »
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Good try though ... Keep searching for justification for your criminal war of aggression.


*snicker*  


Gscholz would rather see millions of Iraqis dying under the hands of Hussein and his cronies that see America succeed.  Envy is a bitter pill to swallow, eh?
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« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2005, 08:11:38 PM »
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Can someone please show me the ceasefire treaty Iraq had with the USA?

Don't bother searching; it doesn't exist. The ceasefire treaty was between Iraq and the U.N.

Good try though ... Keep searching for justification for your criminal war of aggression.


The UN also told Saddam to get out of Kuwait.
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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2005, 08:14:24 PM »
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Yes, and your point is?


My point is that the UN had little or nothing to do with either taking place.
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« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2005, 08:27:16 PM »
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Glad we went, sad about the deaths of our brave men and women, it was / is the right thing to do.  Oh, and anyone that believes that Sadaam's regime did not pose a threat to the US is just kidding themselves.


Havent you figured it out yet?

Nobody thinks anyone is a real threat untill some major tavesty actually happens.

Even after the first WTC bombing who really cared about OBL untill 9/11?

Not many. Not enough people died.

It was only afterwards people wanted to know why nothing was done about hiim before hand.

But its typical. Nobody pays any attention to things that may be a threat or a danger untill something actually happens. Then everyone wants to know why something wasnt done before to prevent it.
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« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2005, 08:48:40 PM »
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Originally posted by Elfie
Uhh...maybe I missed something, but when did that happen?


hmm...maybe a :D would have helped...wasnt being serious or anything, and was refering to the first gulf war.
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« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2005, 08:52:29 PM »
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Originally posted by GScholz

The U.N. mandated the liberation of Kuwait. The force that expelled the Iraqi forces was a U.N. coalition force ... whether you like it or not.


Okay.
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« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2005, 08:53:32 PM »
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Can you find one peice of intel that proves that? Nothing I have seen shows any work done by saddam to attack or cause harm to america outside of iraq.

Seems to me he was scared of us and we turned it into the other way around.


http://www.husseinandterror.com/
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« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2005, 09:02:19 PM »
I wonder how the UN would have gotten Iraq to leave Kuwait if the US was not involed?
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« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2005, 09:05:29 PM »
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Originally posted by Elfie
When I recall the speeches Bush made about going to war with Iraq, I recall him listing multiple reasons each and every time. I do not recall him saying that WMD was the main reason, or that any of the other reasons he gave was a main reason.

Personally, I looked at the entire list of reasons and never singled out one as a MAIN reason. I never thought Bush had a MAIN reason either.

For me, just the fact that after Bush declared war on terrorism, Saddam's support of terrorists was more than enough justification for me, WMD or not. I guess if I had to pick a MAIN reason, it would be Saddam's support of terrorism.


Here you go, night before invasion

Our nation enters this conflict reluctantly -- yet, our purpose is sure. The people of the United States and our friends and allies will not live at the mercy of an outlaw regime that threatens the peace with weapons of mass murder. We will meet that threat now, with our Army, Air Force, Navy, Coast Guard and Marines, so that we do not have to meet it later with armies of fire fighters and police and doctors on the streets of our cities.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030319-17.html

Another 3 days before invasion

It is too late for Saddam Hussein to remain in power. It is not too late for the Iraqi military to act with honor and protect your country by permitting the peaceful entry of coalition forces to eliminate weapons of mass destruction.

more from 3 days before invasion

We are now acting because the risks of inaction would be far greater. In one year, or five years, the power of Iraq to inflict harm on all free nations would be multiplied many times over.

Like I said yeah he does mention other things but the danger of allowing him to stockpile WMD is the straw that broke the camel's back so to speak.
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