Author Topic: Another day, another mass grave (Read 1771 times)

NUKE · « **Reply #30 on:** April 19, 2005, 09:33:58 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Very unlikely.

I wonder if the USA would have gotten Iraq to leave Kuwait without the support of the Arab nations?

Very unlikely.

What support did the Arab nations offer, other than Saudi Arabia offering their land as a base ?

Gunslinger · « **Reply #31 on:** April 19, 2005, 09:46:31 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
What support did the Arab nations offer, other than Saudi Arabia offering their land as a base ?

true true true,

Being present during this specific moment in history I do remember the iraqies pointing themselves at saudi Arabia in a "your next" type fassion.

The 81st (or 101st cant remember) landed there to act as "speed bumbs" the Marines were there a few hours later at the request of the saudi govt.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #32 on:** April 19, 2005, 09:48:41 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Oh goodie! A picture book of misinformation!

wow what elequintly documented referenced misinformation!

BTW you're wrong ( I say this because you havnt backed up your statement so why back up mine)

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1. “Saddam Hussein’s Philanthropy of Terror.” The Hudson Institute: American Outlook, Fall 2003, pages 46 – 52. GO TO ARTICLE

2. “Dems, Then & Now: Iraq terror-tie facts changed with the campaign season for Kerry and Co.” National Review Online (NRO), October 7, 2004. GO TO ARTICLE

3. “There Is a C-O-N-N-E-C-T-I-O-N,” NRO, July 21, 2004. GO TO ARTICLE

4. “Baathist Fingerprints,” NRO, June 3, 2004. GO TO ARTICLE

5. “Clarke’s Not Blind,” NRO, March 26, 2004. GO TO ARTICLE

6. “Graves of Mass Evidence,” NRO, March 19, 2004. GO TO ARTICLE

7. “The Road to Hell Is Paved with Acts of Terror,” NRO, March 10, 2004 GO TO ARTICLE

8. “On the Interrogation List: How did Saddam help 9/11 happen?” NRO, December 15, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

9. “Saddam’s Terror Ties: Iraq-war critics ignore ample evidence,” NRO, October 21, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

10. “WMD & More: Remember what we have found in Iraq,” NRO, June 17, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

11. “Another Terror Tie: The evidence against Saddam Hussein continues to stack up,” NRO, April 16, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

12. “At Salman Pak: Iraq’s terror ties,” NRO, April 7, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

13. “The 9/11 Connection: What Salman Pak could reveal,” NRO, April 3, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

14. “Disarmament Not Good Enough: Getting rid of Saddam,” NRO, March 17, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

15. “Iraq’s Capability: Let’s not wait for a mushroom cloud,” NRO, September 24, 2002. GO TO ARTICLE

Torque · « **Reply #33 on:** April 19, 2005, 10:00:02 PM »

So like the majority of the sites are from those golden Reagan years, Saddam must be yearning.

NUKE · « **Reply #34 on:** April 19, 2005, 10:05:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Torque
So like the majority of the sites are from those golden Reagan years, Saddam must be yearning.

What does Reagan have to do with anything? Are you saying Reagan is responsible for Saddam?

Sandman · « **Reply #35 on:** April 20, 2005, 12:34:18 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
wow what elequintly documented referenced misinformation!

BTW you're wrong ( I say this because you havnt backed up your statement so why back up mine)

1. “Saddam Hussein’s Philanthropy of Terror.” The Hudson Institute: American Outlook, Fall 2003, pages 46 – 52. GO TO ARTICLE

2. “Dems, Then & Now: Iraq terror-tie facts changed with the campaign season for Kerry and Co.” National Review Online (NRO), October 7, 2004. GO TO ARTICLE

3. “There Is a C-O-N-N-E-C-T-I-O-N,” NRO, July 21, 2004. GO TO ARTICLE

4. “Baathist Fingerprints,” NRO, June 3, 2004. GO TO ARTICLE

5. “Clarke’s Not Blind,” NRO, March 26, 2004. GO TO ARTICLE

6. “Graves of Mass Evidence,” NRO, March 19, 2004. GO TO ARTICLE

7. “The Road to Hell Is Paved with Acts of Terror,” NRO, March 10, 2004 GO TO ARTICLE

8. “On the Interrogation List: How did Saddam help 9/11 happen?” NRO, December 15, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

9. “Saddam’s Terror Ties: Iraq-war critics ignore ample evidence,” NRO, October 21, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

10. “WMD & More: Remember what we have found in Iraq,” NRO, June 17, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

11. “Another Terror Tie: The evidence against Saddam Hussein continues to stack up,” NRO, April 16, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

12. “At Salman Pak: Iraq’s terror ties,” NRO, April 7, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

13. “The 9/11 Connection: What Salman Pak could reveal,” NRO, April 3, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

14. “Disarmament Not Good Enough: Getting rid of Saddam,” NRO, March 17, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

15. “Iraq’s Capability: Let’s not wait for a mushroom cloud,” NRO, September 24, 2002. GO TO ARTICLE

The opinions expressed in a neo-con op-ed journal are somehow relevant?

Bodhi · « **Reply #36 on:** April 20, 2005, 02:03:12 AM »

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Originally posted by Raider179
Can you find one peice of intel that proves that? Nothing I have seen shows any work done by saddam to attack or cause harm to america outside of iraq.

Seems to me he was scared of us and we turned it into the other way around.

Tell ya what, I have seen more than I care to of photos to support the cause. Taken by those I trust IMPLICITLY.
For the life of me I can not understand why this has never gone public. I am not a policy maker, so I can not make excuses or give reasons.

As for more proof, well Sadaam was shown to possess documentation and research on nuclear devices, biological devices, and chemical. These are not argued facts.

Why are these items always conviently overlooked in these discussions?

Bodhi · « **Reply #37 on:** April 20, 2005, 02:11:21 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Very unlikely.

I wonder if the USA would have gotten Iraq to leave Kuwait without the support of the Arab nations?

Very unlikely.

pretty ignorant statement GS...

Had the US not invaded, and I stress the US, the entire Saudi Peninsula would have been under Iraqi occupation. Oh wait, maybe they could have waited for the "mighty" UN to role in and help minus the US contingent

Keep living in fantasy land, just keep on living.

While you are at it, remember one simple thing mr amerihater, the only reason you are not speaking russian or not dead in an unmarked grave is because the "evil" US stood up to a bigger bully than Sadaam. You would do well to remember that someday knucklehead.

Raider179 · « **Reply #38 on:** April 20, 2005, 02:44:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Bodhi
Tell ya what, I have seen more than I care to of photos to support the cause. Taken by those I trust IMPLICITLY.
For the life of me I can not understand why this has never gone public. I am not a policy maker, so I can not make excuses or give reasons.

As for more proof, well Sadaam was shown to possess documentation and research on nuclear devices, biological devices, and chemical. These are not argued facts.

Why are these items always conviently overlooked in these discussions?

So thats a No, right? Sorry if "trust me I have seen" it isnt gonna cut it for me.

And this is what you said "Oh, and anyone that believes that Sadaam's regime did not pose a threat to the US is just kidding themselves." So how is anyone without access to your "privileged photos" gonna make that same judgement as you?

He had documentation? thats it? He actually had WMD during Gulf war 1 and he didnt use it. Sorry but that Saddam was out to get us thing was overplayed. He just didnt want to get overthrown by a coup or by us.

Although I do agree with you that the Saudi Peninsula would have been Iraqi Territory had we not intervened in 91.

Nilsen · « **Reply #39 on:** April 20, 2005, 02:56:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Bodhi
pretty ignorant statement GS...

Had the US not invaded, and I stress the US, the entire Saudi Peninsula would have been under Iraqi occupation. Oh wait, maybe they could have waited for the "mighty" UN to role in and help minus the US contingent

Keep living in fantasy land, just keep on living.

While you are at it, remember one simple thing mr amerihater, the only reason you are not speaking russian or not dead in an unmarked grave is because the "evil" US stood up to a bigger bully than Sadaam. You would do well to remember that someday knucklehead.

Oh my... we have the rolleyes, personal attack and underlining all in the same post. Bodhi is serious this time, better back down GS.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #40 on:** April 20, 2005, 03:25:27 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Very unlikely.

I wonder if the USA would have gotten Iraq to leave Kuwait without the support of the Arab nations?

Very unlikely.

Thats funny.

By "Arab nations" may I assume that you mean those other than Kuwait and Saudi Arabia? Because those had a clear reason to want Saddam attcaked circa 1991, UN or no UN. Unless you are saying the UN convinced Kuwait that they should want to be liberated, or Saudi arabia that they want to to be protected from one of the worlds largest armies massing on their borders just after conquering another neighbor?

If I'm assuming right, then please do tell what Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, qatar, Bahrian, UAE and the PLO could have REALISTICALLY done to stop the USA from attcaking Saddam and driving his invasion forces from Kuwait.

Would they have joined the Iraqi lines in Kuwait? Attcaked US ships in the Gulf or Med? Cut off oil when IIRC the saudis were giving it to us for free and paying for much of the war? Lemme see, what does Egypt choose, billions of dollars in US aid or siding with saddam against the America?

What could they have done? Whine in the UN as the USA vetoed nay of thir resolutions? Protested in the streets in support of the secular Saddam invading Kuwait and poaaibly the holy land of Saudi Arabia?

What could they have done GS to stop the US Military from removing Saddam from Kuwait as long as the Saudis and Kuwaitis logically wanted us there?

Eagler · « **Reply #41 on:** April 20, 2005, 05:53:42 AM »

some are so blinded by hate of the US, this admin or both - it is a waste of time to reply to their warped view of reality

Wtg Bush, our Armed Forces and our Allies who started a global change in 10/01 and took the next step in 03/03 towards peace in the Middle East.

Nilsen · « **Reply #42 on:** April 20, 2005, 06:00:52 AM »

Yes we dont agree with what you do so we hate you

SkyWolf · « **Reply #43 on:** April 20, 2005, 06:52:37 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
wow what elequintly documented referenced misinformation!

BTW you're wrong ( I say this because you havnt backed up your statement so why back up mine) 1. “Saddam Hussein’s Philanthropy of Terror.” The Hudson Institute: American Outlook, Fall 2003, pages 46 – 52. GO TO ARTICLE

2. “Dems, Then & Now: Iraq terror-tie facts changed with the campaign season for Kerry and Co.” National Review Online (NRO), October 7, 2004. GO TO ARTICLE

3. “There Is a C-O-N-N-E-C-T-I-O-N,” NRO, July 21, 2004. GO TO ARTICLE

4. “Baathist Fingerprints,” NRO, June 3, 2004. GO TO ARTICLE

5. “Clarke’s Not Blind,” NRO, March 26, 2004. GO TO ARTICLE

6. “Graves of Mass Evidence,” NRO, March 19, 2004. GO TO ARTICLE

7. “The Road to Hell Is Paved with Acts of Terror,” NRO, March 10, 2004 GO TO ARTICLE

8. “On the Interrogation List: How did Saddam help 9/11 happen?” NRO, December 15, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

9. “Saddam’s Terror Ties: Iraq-war critics ignore ample evidence,” NRO, October 21, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

10. “WMD & More: Remember what we have found in Iraq,” NRO, June 17, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

11. “Another Terror Tie: The evidence against Saddam Hussein continues to stack up,” NRO, April 16, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

12. “At Salman Pak: Iraq’s terror ties,” NRO, April 7, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

13. “The 9/11 Connection: What Salman Pak could reveal,” NRO, April 3, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

14. “Disarmament Not Good Enough: Getting rid of Saddam,” NRO, March 17, 2003. GO TO ARTICLE

15. “Iraq’s Capability: Let’s not wait for a mushroom cloud,” NRO, September 24, 2002. GO TO ARTICLE

Man... learn to branch out a bit on your reading material. Start with Google News. You can read Papers from the US and around the World. I'm not saying you are wrong... it's just that anyone who basically gives all his references from NRO loses a bit of credibility with me.

Woof

Momus-- · « **Reply #44 on:** April 20, 2005, 08:12:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
http://www.husseinandterror.com/

That domain is owned by a political PR company headed by an ex-Reaganite hack and conservative activist. Impartial it certainly isn't. It also makes a number of assertions that are severely lacking in context, and its central thrust seems to be that Saddam was supporting anti-Israeli groups. Given that most arab nations are to a greater or lesser extent involved in similar activities, not least the USA key ally Saudia Arabia, I'm not sure what the significance of the material is other than to convince the ignorant of a less than truthful contention.