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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2005, 03:42:04 PM »
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I dunno... any manufacturer that has a unionized workforce probably deserves it.


Yep. They deserve it because are too lazy to pack up and ship the factory elsewhere. Heck even moving production to the Southern US could get rid of many union troubles, let alone outsourcing to favorable environmenbts like China or Mexico.  

And considering that US Union membership and power are down to ridiculously low levels and has been in a freefall for decades, the unions get what they deserved too.

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« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2005, 04:12:16 PM »
I dunno... Look around. How many corporations are in it for the long haul? It seems that the vast majority care about one thing, making the shareholders insanely wealthy. The workforce today is considered disposable.

It's different for us than earlier generations. Back in the day, a successful company was loyal to its employees and vice versa. Now, you better be looking out for yourself, because no one else is.


Now... as to the idea of moving manufacturing work to other countries, it's amazingly shortsighted. Sure, it might be good for the company's profit margin on the short term, but if company A farms out all their work to Mexico, who is going to have any money to buy anything from company B? One company's worker is another's consumer.
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« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2005, 04:17:16 PM »
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Yep. They deserve it because are too lazy to pack up and ship the factory elsewhere. Heck even moving production to the Southern US could get rid of many union troubles, let alone outsourcing to favorable environmenbts like China or Mexico.  

And considering that US Union membership and power are down to ridiculously low levels and has been in a freefall for decades, the unions get what they deserved too.

:D


Not all manufactured goods can be economically produced in another Country.

nanner nanner!
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« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2005, 05:05:23 PM »
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no, it is not difficult with just a bit of effort- and it's important.... although in some areas we have no choice due to availibility.

(Did you know John Deere tractors are made in Japan and Kubota tractors are made in America? Freaky, huh?)


 is that a fact?  we are in the market for a new tractor and I was amazed to learn this.  We are currently running Japanese manufactured 1978 Kubota L245s and are quite pleased with them.  We now find ourselves needing a little more HP for some of the posting in the heavier oolite and limstone out west.  we were considering the Kubota L3400 or the Deere 3520 we are leaning to the Deere because of the Yanmar diesel.

anyone with an opinion on these machines?
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« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2005, 05:23:25 PM »
Storch I thought you ran a machine shop or welding shop? Or is this for personal use?
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« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2005, 05:29:37 PM »
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This kind of reminds me of the hourly vs salary fights that prevailed in the US auto companies back in the 70's-80's.

The white collar type's smugly proclaming that the blue collar type's should compete on a global basis never figuring that their engineering, marketing, design etc. prowess could be matched by pro's in other countries.

Now I have been self employed for over 30 years and get paid for what I produce, so I have no ax to grind.

When the public employees in the US are willing to accept compensation packages on par with their brethren in the countries that produce the products/services that they so warmly embrace I will take their comments with less than a grain of salt.

shamus



Shamus,

Just curious, what kind of business do you have.
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« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2005, 05:37:05 PM »
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Ah but Jackal those Harleys stop and run good now! In the bad old days of American brakes you'd be through the back of the car in front amd out the other side before they bit! Buells are great though



I never had a prob stopping a Harley. Where do you come up with this info you throw around?
Buells are station wagons on two wheels. I can see why you would like them.

I`m also sort of curious when you became a U.S. citizen.
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« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2005, 05:40:11 PM »
John Deere construction equipment is made in Dubuque Iowa... which I guess is a suburb of Tokyo.
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« Reply #38 on: April 25, 2005, 05:41:12 PM »
I'm not really into cars but I love my Jeep and I wouldn't own anything else especially a Jap four wheel drive. Every nut,bolt and accessory on it is made in USA.

Of couse bikes is another matter. :)


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« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2005, 05:46:00 PM »
I rode a mates sportster back around 92. It was a bendy wobbly vibrating piece of junk that didn't stop until the lever was right back against the bar. Nowadays I hear they are better. As for a Buel being a station wagon you need new glasses. What the hell do you call the Fatboy or the electra glide then ? Yank tanks we call em.

Jackal you started a thread about buying American products if you are American. the principal is just as applicable if you are German, French, British whatever nationality. Do you buy your own nations product? If you don't want to listen to people outside your own land, fine don't listen. But don't expect us not to participate on a BBs for a game that is available on the net all over the world that we pay money to be part of.

Interestingly when I went to Sturgis in 98 I thought guys would think my triumph was junk. Some did but others appreciated the fact that a Brit would buy a British product. Its horses for courses as they say over here.
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« Reply #40 on: April 25, 2005, 05:49:53 PM »
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Storch I thought you ran a machine shop or welding shop? Or is this for personal use?

It's a welding shop with some ability to turn our own parts (we have an old lathe and if pressed one of the guys knows how to use it).  we manufacture decorative gates and install access control devices.  some gates require posts as opposed to columns.  some jobs also involve decorative fences and sometimes we land fencing jobs.  we need a tractor to drive an auger in order to set the hinge posts or other posts.
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« Reply #41 on: April 25, 2005, 05:51:44 PM »
Ok, I see, you do the installtion too. Thanks.
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« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2005, 06:22:37 PM »
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Shamus,

Just curious, what kind of business do you have.


Maverick,

Investigative..if it matters.

shamus
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« Reply #43 on: April 25, 2005, 06:44:12 PM »
Its pretty tough to just "buy American"  

Toyota builds more cars in the US then it does in Japan.  They have 4 plants and are building a 5th ( I think).  The CEO of Toyota recently called his company an American car company.
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« Reply #44 on: April 25, 2005, 06:47:45 PM »
Same here with Nissan!

The most efficient plant in Europe so I heard on the radio the other day!
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