Northern empire-theoretical discuss

[agent 009]

Germany 1st takes Austria, Czechlosovakia, Denmark, part of Poland to connect Prussia with Germany, Then Baltic states, & Scandinavia,  & finally England. & calls it the northern empire.

No eastern front, no battle of France, no North African front.

Can they hold it? will US & Canada intervene?

[WMLute]

Originally posted by agent 009
Germany 1st takes Austria, Czechlosovakia, Denmark, part of Poland to connect Prussia with Germany, Then Baltic states, & Scandinavia,  & finally England. & calls it the northern empire.

No eastern front, no battle of France, no North African front.

Can they hold it? will US & Canada intervene?

Depends.  Is my Granpa still wearing a dress?  If he IS, then no, Germany couldn't possibly hold.

OTOH, if he goes back to pants, then Hitler very well might have succeded.

Touchy one there  (the topic, not my grandpa.  that bastage never gave "good" hugs)

[agent 009]

Fabulously interesting to hear about grandpa, was he a cross dresser then?

[Pongo]

So england and france dont declare when takes the danzig corridore?
So Germany doesnt ally with Russia to invade poland?

So they invade england successfully from Denmark? is that a two day sail?

Hitler ignores the two largest armies in the world on his flanks?

He has still not secured a single source of oil unless you count the north sea.

I dont think your scenario is even remotly feasable or in keeping with what we know of Hitler. But shure..if they succeeded in taking all that they wouldnt have to worry about losing it. Who is going to take it back? Why ignore france and the low countries though? They would be a piece of cake if you had england.

[agent 009]

In yaughts yes. Yes England & france do not declare war over Danzig corridor.

The idea is a Northern empire that is no threat to France or Russia. England as you say would be difficult, It would require a completely differwent naval plan starting in 30,s. It could be left out for that matter as part of strategic plan.

If Germans captured Iceland and Norway, one would be hard pressed to see England staying neutral, But again that is the question, is there a feasible way for Germany to create a Northern empire with central Europe, baltic states & scandinavia?

[WMLute]

Originally posted by agent 009
Fabulously interesting to hear about grandpa, was he a cross dresser then?

you missed my point entirely.  (sigh) Obviously SOMEONE needs to bone up on their world history.


(cross dresser indeed SNORK)

[detch01]

Originally posted by WMLute
SOMEONE needs to bone up on their world history.

... and their geography.



asw

[thrila]

Why wouldn't there be an eastern front?  War was inevitable between Germany and Russia.

[agent 009]

I thought I would get the odd snide replies. If hurling turds is your thing, head back to the crossdresser chat room.

Danzig corridor could be bypassed. war with Russia inevitable?  perhaps over Baltic states, Hitlers political bent is well known. But the discussion is theoretical, it is a strategic discussion regarding feasability, not Hitlers political bent.

[WMLute]

Originally posted by agent 009
I thought I would get the odd snide replies. If hurling turds is your thing, head back to the crossdresser chat room.

Danzig corridor could be bypassed. war with Russia inevitable? perhaps over Baltic states, Hitlers political bent is well known. But the discussion is theoretical, it is a strategic discussion regarding feasability, not Hitlers political bent.

and YOU sir, obviously have never met my granpa.  He TAUGHT Danzig how to rock.  Taught 'em to crack walnuts w/ their, well, better not get into THAT right now.  It's a pretty scary story fraught with peril.  Remind me to tell you the story of my grandpa and stalin, two beer bongs, and a whole lot of squirrels.

[detch01]

Originally posted by agent 009
The idea is a Northern empire that is no threat to France or Russia. England as you say would be difficult, It would require a completely differwent naval plan starting in 30,s. It could be left out for that matter as part of strategic plan.

If Germans captured Iceland and Norway, one would be hard pressed to see England staying neutral, But again that is the question, is there a feasible way for Germany to create a Northern empire with central Europe, baltic states & scandinavia?

France could/would not have remained neutral in your scenario unless you roll back history 2 hundred years and make some changes there. Your trying to look at this idea in a historical vacuum. Read Robert Massey's "Dreadnought" and Henry Kissinger's "Diplomacy" and you'll know why I say this.


asw

[agent 009]

Glad I haven't met Grandpa with his interest in nuts & dresses.

[Morpheus]

This is out of control.

Stop it.

[Ghosth]

I don't know, was kinda fun to watch actually. A bit like a Fairy swordfish runs into a tempest, and doesn't understand why its fluttering down in flames.

[Westy]

"The idea is a ..."

 I just have to ask.  

 Do you wear leather undies, listen to Wehrmacht marching music and get all dreamy eyed during these alternate history fantasies so that a box of VonKleenex has to be at hand?