Weight of .303 round?????

[XrightyX]

What is the weight of a .303 round (Browning MG as in our Mossie, Spitties and Hurris):  projectile, powder and jacket?  Also if possible, what is the weight of the ammunition belt per round or whatever...

I've found contradicting weights for the various components online.

Thanks in advance,

righty

[Maverick]

Are you looking for the weight of the bullet or the entire cartridge?

[XrightyX]

Everything, all together, bullet, cartridge and belt.  As I understand the belt is in addition to the cartridge.

Thanks

righty

[MOIL]

How long is the belt ? {how many rnds?}

[Karnak]

Originally posted by MOIL
How long is the belt ? {how many rnds?}

It varries.

300 for the Spitfire Mk Ia

334 for the Hurricane Mk I

350 for the Spitfire Mk Vb or later

500 or 720 for the Mosquito Mk VI

[XrightyX]

Originally posted by Karnak
It varries.

500 or 720 for the Mosquito Mk VI

Which is exactly why I was asking...

I think the .303s in the Mossie are good just to scare someone into turning so I can nail them with an over the nose deflection shot with Hispanos.  BUT...is 3000 rounds really necessary?  I usually drop 2200 rounds on the runway leaving me with 800 for emergencies and pinging.

The big question is...Am I wasting my time or is there a performance gain in losing that ammo?  I've got a couple of numbers that would indicate I'm losing about 200 lbs for 3000 rounds, but that is including the belt...

Wasn't the belt retained in some cases for reloading?

Thanks

righty

[Krusty]

Depending on the plane the shells weren't always ejected. So you might lose some weight but for balancing you kept the shells in containers. I can't remember if the mossie had this or not.

Regardless: KEEP THE SHELLS! Dude, do you have ANY idea how good 4x 303s in a nose-mounted configuration are? That's like 3x better than 8x303s in the hurricane's wing-mounted position. Don't haul bellybutton because you run out of cannon (that's just cheezy in my book) but use your MGs too. 3000-fricken rounds will get you at least 5 kills, and that's with liberal application.


Those MGs extend your ability to kill the enemy. Period. Keep them. Use them. Love them.

[JB73]

HiTech posted in a thread about this not too long ago (last 6 months) that the weight of the bullets is modeled in game

[XrightyX]

JB73, you and HONDO are bad, bad men.

Keep up the good work.

[Karnak]

The Mossie retains the .303 casings and belt links.  You are only going to lose the weight of the bullet and propellant.


I have gotten kills with just the Mossie's .303s.  They are not 100% useless, just 95% useless.

[Pongo]

A 220 round belt of disintegrating link 7.62mm weighs 11 pounds. Assuming that the 303s use disintegrating link and that the rounds are ejected not kept in the nose(big assumption) then that would be pretty close for your purposes.

Ejecting them right in front of the muzzles of the hispanos might not be a good idea, and 150 pounds right in the nose might throw the trim out quite a bit when its gone.

so at 1/20th of a pound per round the 3000 round load would be 150 pounds.

[Karnak]

Pongo,

They are definately held in the nose.  There is a compartment for them.

[Tony Williams]

Complete cartridge weights for just about all WW2 fighter gun ammo are in the article on WW2 Fighter Armament Effectiveness on my website. These don't include belt links but these were very light in comparison and would only increase the weight by a small percentage.

Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website and discussion forum

[YUCCA]

Any body ever wonder if like when a dogfight was happening in over a village or whatever if some citizens were hit my spent casings?

[Pongo]

caseings? all those 50 cal rounds that were fired from 1000 bomber formations had to fall somewhere.