Time to unperk the Spit 14

[MANDO]

Originally posted by Kev367th
Like I said, can't have the RAF with a post 1942 plane that's unperked.

You already have the 1944 late model Typhoon 1b, and it is unperked.

[Edbert1]

Surely our Mossie is post 42 as well.

[straffo]

Originally posted by MANDO
You already have the 1944 late model Typhoon 1b, and it is unperked.

beep beep whats is the difference between the 42 and the 44 typhoon ?

New propeller , new canopy and a reliable engine.

Now what is the difference between the 190A5 and the D9
Or between the 109F4 and the G10 ?

[Angus]

And the Spit V vs the XIV


And the RL Spit XIV and ours?


And a good IX or VIII and our IX...??

[MANDO]

Originally posted by straffo
New propeller , new canopy and a reliable engine.

May be this indicating that the Typh design was really finished in 1944? First M262 prototype flew in 1941, that doesnt mean that 262 was a 1941 plane.

[Karnak]

Either the Spitfire Mk XIV needs to be remodeled with +25lbs boost or it needs to be reduced in price.  One or the other.

[straffo]

Originally posted by MANDO
May be this indicating that the Typh design was really finished in 1944? First M262 prototype flew in 1941, that doesnt mean that 262 was a 1941 plane.

Well this unfinished design was used in several squadrons and was the backbone of the 2TAF.

Not bad , not bad at all

[MANDO]

Originally posted by straffo
Well this unfinished design was used in several squadrons and was the backbone of the 2TAF.
Not bad , not bad at all

On the other hand it was not considered a succesful fighter. I would say it was put into service too early and with notorious precipitation trying to match the new speed levels achieved by the german 190s.

[Angus]

Well, the Typhoon was also a quite succesful ground attack aircraft.
Something so fast it's almost uninterceptable hauling 2000 lbs and sporting Hizookas at the same time.
But really, our Spitfire IX is off.
It's a high alt aircraft (and very good up high), but slower and has a less ROC than later Mk IX's, and only half the range of the VIII.
The armament is hybrid, - I belive it did not exist on this type, but on the XIV.
If I had a vote, I'd ask for the VIII or the IX on 25 boost, and that our XIV either being lowered in price, or corrected.
Gonna check time to 20K right now

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by MANDO
On the other hand it was not considered a succesful fighter. I would say it was put into service too early and with notorious precipitation trying to match the new speed levels achieved by the german 190s.

Yep, it was out there to try and stop the hit and run raids on the south coast of England by the FW-190s.  The Spit XII was introduced for the same reason

The XIIs of 91 Squadron putting a fairly serious dent in those 190 operations when they got 5 190s for no loss on May 25, 1943.

Tiffie never really excelled in air to air, but was definately a workhorse as a fighter-bomber.

Dan/CorkyJr

[Angus]

Ok, from opening up, on WEP as it lasts..
Full fuel load, fuel burn as in TA which is faster than RL
5 minutes left my Spit XIV at 18K, for 20 it was some 5:45
A RL Mk XIV should be there in 5. I think with the same boost.
Note, that both the IX and VIII boosted will be 45 seconds faster to the same alt than our AH XIV, - but in RL equal.
Of a +25 boost mk XIV, I do not know the performance.
One must also bear in mind that AH WEP has limits that were not there in RL, - you could basically push your Spitfire throttle through the gate and keep it there as long as it went. There were examples of Pilots that panicked and ran on full WEP for something like 30 minutes without harming the engine.
Anyway, 109G2 from AH, 9700 feet in 3 minutes, in 5 mins at 17.6, and in 5:50 it hits 20K.
Not sure of the boosts of that one in AH, but I guess 1.42, and that would leave it like a minute too fast.
So, we have a perked and PORKED Spit XIV

[straffo]

Originally posted by MANDO
On the other hand it was not considered a succesful fighter. I would say it was put into service too early and with notorious precipitation trying to match the new speed levels achieved by the german 190s.

Define successfull fighter 1st ...

Does the Typhoon shine at 30K over Germany ... no

Does it made the German Jabo run on the English coast a dangerous and costly ?
Yes.

Typhoon had succes in her role and her role was not supremacy fighter why do you want to compare her to a supremacy fighter ?

[Kev367th]

Originally posted by MANDO
On the other hand it was not considered a succesful fighter. I would say it was put into service too early and with notorious precipitation trying to match the new speed levels achieved by the german 190s.

Thats whay the RAF introduced Spit XII and XIV.
Funnily enough the 190D9 is free, yet its counterpart is perked, or not available.

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Kev367th
Thats whay the RAF introduced Spit XII and XIV.
Funnily enough the 190D9 is free, yet its counterpart is perked, or not available.

Change the XIV to a Spit 21 and then you've got a better argument for the perking.

4 cannon, a bit faster, etc.

And it was operational with 91 Squadron prior to the war ending.

Nah I don't really mean it  How bout a better LFIXe

image is a 91 Squadron Spit 21

Dan/CorkyJr

[Morpheus]

Originally posted by Kev367th
Thats whay the RAF introduced Spit XII and XIV.
Funnily enough the 190D9 is free, yet its counterpart is perked, or not available.

The D9 can't out turn a loaded B17.

And when you get it slow in a group you better start praying for a miracle or a way out. Which getting slow enough in the D9 to become vulnerable happens very fast if you dont play like a panzy.