Fighter Arena?

[DipStick]

Originally posted by Eagler
the CT is closer to it than the MA is ... at least there is some type of planeset management there now

great idea - just saying it be easier to set something like that up in CT for a week or two, to test the waters, than to get HT to setup another server

... and use the shorter icon setting as CT now does

I feel the CT has such a bad reputation that nobody would try it there.

I like the icons in MA, not one of the things I'd care to change.

[DipStick]

Originally posted by Krusty
The following need to be taken from the category they are in and shifted to the next category down.

C.202
C.205
LA5


Trust me. In 1941 setup the 202 dominates. It's more of a mid war plane. The 205 is not as uber as some, but has better power and weapons and is more like a low-end late-war performer.

La5 is just a no-brainer. It's a half step behind the LA7



Also, why can't you duplicate planes? All of early are in mid. All of early and mid are in late. So that late has them all (for those that want to fly the a6m2 vs the chog, for example)

Some plane in every area will "dominate" so to speak, there is no way around that. The C.202 has pea shooters as does the P-40B we could go on and on about what plane should go where. I think the way they are is a good start on a) good fights b) good representation for various countries c) fun factor.

This is not going to be another CT. It's not EXACTLY setup for historical matchups, etc... The two countries ingame will not be ie: US vs Germany. Timeframe of aircraft was used at first to help catagorize the planes only.

[DipStick]

Originally posted by FBRaptor
I would think a complete new arena would not be as good as adding it to the cormers of main arena. A new aren you would have to log out and in to get back and forth. Sometimes u may just want to jump to fighter town for a few quickies and then right back to the land grab

Sounds good and has been brought up many times. Only problem is griefers. You can't set hardness for a few bases. It only works for the whole arena as far as I know...

[AKFokerFoder+]

It won't happen, so don't waste your time on this

HT has never shown any intrest in a Fighter Town type of arena.

Just enjoy what we have

[DipStick]

Thanks Foder. Was hoping an AK (good fights) would come in with something good to say....

Guess I'll just keep waiting.

[-sudz-]

I love to fly early war planes.

And People from the C1 field keep on comming over with their uberplanes and killing us. HiTech I have a greate idea, you should set up an areana for just our early war planes? Because I know everyone would then fly the early war planes since they are so much fun.

1 week goes by.

Hitech can you please post a message of the day so more people come over to the early war arena.


1 week goes by.

HiTech can you please close the main arena for a week so more people fly the early war arena.

Funny how some things never change in the 15 years I have been playing and createng WWII flight sims.

HiTech
(On sudz's computer)

[Eagler]

exactly the reason a test bed could/should be setup on CT

everything but a custom map is ready to go

[eskimo2]

Originally posted by Krusty
The following need to be taken from the category they are in and shifted to the next category down.

C.202
C.205
LA5

Trust me. In 1941 setup the 202 dominates. It's more of a mid war plane. The 205 is not as uber as some, but has better power and weapons and is more like a low-end late-war performer.

La5 is just a no-brainer. It's a half step behind the LA7

 

202:
The 202 clearly has the flight performance edge on my early war list.  It belongs with the early birds (IMO) because its guns suck.  It takes so much ammo, up-close-and-personal, to down a plane that it’s pathetic.  I just happened to be flying this bird in the MA a couple of days ago and it took tons of hits to do any damage.  I’m doing better in the MA in the P-40b (POS) just because it’s 2x50’s are lethal enough.  I’d trade the 202’s 4 guns for a single 50 with 300 rounds.  In a furball, the 202 either gets an assist, or takes so long to down an enemy that by the time you’ve sawed halfway through a guy’s wing, all of his buddies are on you.

205:
Great bird; rivals the spit IX in flight performance, if not a bit better.  Once again the Italian guns are a factor; while certainly lethal they are not as effective as the Spit’s Hispanos and 50’s.

LA-5
I wouldn’t argue against it being a late war class machine.  It would get eaten alive in the late sector though.

Originally posted by Krusty

Also, why can't you duplicate planes? All of early are in mid. All of early and mid are in late. So that late has them all (for those that want to fly the a6m2 vs the chog, for example)

I agree, and stated above:

“Put three of those little areas on one map, apart from each other.

At one, make available early war only.
At another, make make available early and mid war only,
At the last, make all available.”

eskimo

[eskimo2]

Originally posted by MOSQ
Eskimo, the Typhoon first flew operational combat missions in 1941.
Nos. 56 and 609 Squadrons based at Duxford began to receive their Typhoons in September 1941.

They were not a late war development  machine.  That was the Tempest.

370 mph on the deck, nearly 400 mph at 5K, 4 x Hispanos x 140 rounds each.  (Need I say more?)

I think the 4 x Hispano 1b first saw combat in 43, but they kept them in service until the end of the war; regardless:

Anything that can break 350 mph and has 4 x Hispanos needs to duke it out with the late war monsters.  Its way too fast for the mid-war sector.  

eskimo

[eskimo2]

Originally posted by DipStick
I feel the CT has such a bad reputation that nobody would try it there.

I like the icons in MA, not one of the things I'd care to change.

It would stand a much better chance if it had a dedicated arena labeled “Furball”.

However, a lot of ideas come and go.  HTC does not respond to most and actually tries few (percentage wise).  

That being said, if HTC does not respond to this thread and basically say, “Let’s do it.”, I would think running it in the CT would be better than nothing.  If it packed the house then it might make HTC notice and reconsider.  At least with the CT you’ve got CM’s that will most likely give it a whirl.  Heck, if there’s interest, someone might even make a map.

eskimo

[eskimo2]

Originally posted by -sudz-
I love to fly early war planes.

And People from the C1 field keep on comming over with their uberplanes and killing us. HiTech I have a greate idea, you should set up an areana for just our early war planes? Because I know everyone would then fly the early war planes since they are so much fun.

1 week goes by.

Hitech can you please post a message of the day so more people come over to the early war arena.


1 week goes by.

HiTech can you please close the main arena for a week so more people fly the early war arena.

Funny how some things never change in the 15 years I have been playing and createng WWII flight sims.

HiTech
(On sudz's computer)

Note the 8K cliffs and the 127 mph downdraft at 8K and above.  Planes will literally “bounce off of the “ceiling”.
No way to fly from 1 sector to another.

eskimo

[Krusty]

Eskimo, a few points:

202 has 2x50cal in nose and optional 2x 7mm in wings. I think I get about as many kills in it as in p40B (I don't know, I get lucky in the 202, it flies better and I land better guns solutions, so I get better kills in it with less guns.)

205 has almost hizooka-quality 20mms AND has 2x 50cals as well. About the same package. But don't compare guns to the 1-ping-insta-death-from-any-angle Hispanos. I don't like them as guns. Compare to US M2, to German MG151, to Jap 20mms, etc. They're better than most other guns (save the uber Hispanos). I think the spit9 out performs it engine wise, but it'll give the SpitV a run for its money.

LA5 has almost identical performace specs to the LA7. It can't out run almost every plane in the game like the La7 can, but it's damn fast and it has a nearly identical guns package, turns, climbs, and fights the same. It's DEFINITELY late war, in my book.

[DipStick]

Originally posted by eskimo2
It would stand a much better chance if it had a dedicated arena labeled “Furball”.

However, a lot of ideas come and go.  HTC does not respond to most and actually tries few (percentage wise).  

That being said, if HTC does not respond to this thread and basically say, “Let’s do it.”, I would think running it in the CT would be better than nothing.  If it packed the house then it might make HTC notice and reconsider.  At least with the CT you’ve got CM’s that will most likely give it a whirl.  Heck, if there’s interest, someone might even make a map.

eskimo

Agree trying it in CT would be better than nothing but unless there was a MOTD announcing it in the MA all week I don't think most would take notice of it.

[DipStick]

C.202 has 2 12.7mm and 2 7.7mm, I don't think that would compare to 2 50s damage wise. Could be wrong.

[DipStick]

Originally posted by -sudz-
I love to fly early war planes.

And People from the C1 field keep on comming over with their uberplanes and killing us. HiTech I have a greate idea, you should set up an areana for just our early war planes? Because I know everyone would then fly the early war planes since they are so much fun.

1 week goes by.

Hitech can you please post a message of the day so more people come over to the early war arena.


1 week goes by.

HiTech can you please close the main arena for a week so more people fly the early war arena.

Funny how some things never change in the 15 years I have been playing and createng WWII flight sims.

HiTech
(On sudz's computer)

HT I appreciate your response. I realize you did not notice the 8K cliffs and 8K wind designed to prevent griefers. Take a close look at the whole setup and post again. You might actually like it. With the traffic the CT has gotten over the years I've been here, I didn't think it would hurt to try something for the furballers. If I was wrong I apologize.

Maybe you'll grow to like the idea. Even I will fly the MA alot, this is just for those nights when the hoardes rule, there's nothing but high buffs everywhere, you only have 30-45mins to fly, etc... If you want to find a good fight with several like-minded folks this will be the arena (hopefully).

I love a good fight with 10-15 planes on each side. Fighting low over the water. I know alot of folks like fighting this way. In the MA we're lucky if we can get a CV close to a base for 1/2 hour or so before it's sunk. Then it's back to square one, looking for 'the fight'.



PS... A couple of good side affects would be dropping the number in the MA a bit. This would improve vox, warping, etc... IMHO. Also it would be good for those who have low end systems. No trees, few objects and the fight will be over water.