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What's the complain about La7's
« Reply #45 on: May 19, 2005, 06:53:35 PM »
:lol  Stop Flyboy you're killing me! :lol

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« Reply #46 on: May 19, 2005, 09:23:12 PM »
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Despise - If you look around the MA you'll see a lot more of what you 'despise' in the P51s/190D9/La7/109G10 aircraft types, MORE than any other. Coincidently prob the fastest (free) 4 in the game.
Get even close to most of them they hit the deck and run.


Agree 100%.  I would further submit that if the only Tiffie pilots you are encountering are such timid ninnies as you describe (Flyboy and Kweassa), either:
A) They are just as new as the runaway La-7 drivers
B) They got word of who you are and are so scared of your uberness they pee themselves and have trouble with the controls.

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Only in AH2 could people consider the Tiffy a good dogfighter, when actually in WW2 it was considered a failure and relegated to ground attack.


Well, yes that may be true Kev, but we fly em as they model em.  Or perhaps its just that we are willing to take more risks with them here, where "death" is something we can experience hundreds of times a day if necessary.  Quotes from pilots who flew the Typhoon loved it.  And it was used with great effectiveness chasing down Focke Wulfs, not just attacking ground targets (even if that is where it got its greatest fame).

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« Reply #47 on: May 19, 2005, 11:58:28 PM »
True StarOf Africa -
Plus they weren't likely to run into an enemy Lala or P51.
Also by the time they were used extensively in ground attack allies had virtual air superiority.
Unfortuneately with the RAF unbalanced planeset (i.e only 1942 and earlier are free) its the best one for 'trying' to catch the late war stuff.
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« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2005, 01:12:18 AM »
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Agree 100%. I would further submit that if the only Tiffie pilots you are encountering are such timid ninnies as you describe (Flyboy and Kweassa), either:
A) They are just as new as the runaway La-7 drivers
B) They got word of who you are and are so scared of your uberness they pee themselves and have trouble with the controls.


 Actually, the most usually encountered Typhs are pretty decent and good pilots. They'e the ones encountered when you are flying around your home base and try to fend off enemy "grunts"(low skill, low flying, Napoleonic infantry-ish, charge-and-drop-like-flies groups of fighter pilots...), score loads of enemy kills, and then suddenly comes smacking you from above with quad-Hizookas.

 You see the system message and think, "oh.. it's him and his Typh.. again.. ".

 So you get up from the next field, and plan an ambush, thinking "he's not gonna land those kills" and approach.

 Except the moment they see your icon from 6.0k out, they turn around, and run to home full speed, and then land the kills. You may be able to run him down, but it's gonna take like 5~7 minutes to outpace a full speed Typh. You're never gonna catch him before he reaches the safety of his home base.

 La-7 pilots are different. The good ones do fly in the above manner, but most of them just jump into enemy field full speed, make high-G turns and reversals, blow all the E they have, and then get caught by your own La-7s in the vicinity. (Ofcourse, when your team doesn't have a La-7 nearby, sometimes that La-7 can do all that stupid stuff, and still manage to get home in one piece...)

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« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2005, 01:32:10 AM »
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Originally posted by Flyboy
ya, i was being general, alot of players do what i described regardless to the plane they fly.

as for tiffi\ La7

i think Kweassa described it very good.
tiffi pilots are the worst, not in terms of skill, but in terms of flying style, i just despise the way some of them play this game. all they care about is landing kills, they will never engage unless they have an advantage, they will avoid a 1 vrs. 1 like a plague, they couldnt care less about the fight itself. or to sun it, they just fly the complete opposite style then my own.
i must confess that if it was real life and i had a big ugly thug holding a gun to my head and telling me he will kill me if ill get shot down. that is the exact way i would play the game.

but i guess everyone gets his fun in his own way, and i cant force anyone to play the way i want.


and now for the La7.
this plane IS the best plane in the game, period. its just ridiculously good over any other plane. a close second is the P51d.

i myself desided i will not fly that plane at all in the MA, and you can check me on it
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so to sum things up: the La7 is way batter then the tiffi, but the tiffi pilots are the most annoying :D

Flame away

Wing with me and let see if I'm timid.

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« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2005, 01:40:15 AM »
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Originally posted by Kev367th
True StarOf Africa -
Plus they weren't likely to run into an enemy Lala or P51.
Also by the time they were used extensively in ground attack allies had virtual air superiority.
Unfortuneately with the RAF unbalanced planeset (i.e only 1942 and earlier are free) its the best one for 'trying' to catch the late war stuff.


What SA2 described happenend between 1942 and D-Day.
And during this period there was not a lot of P51D and La7 flying over the english coast.
Especially to do low level Jabo for the luftwaffe.

The typhoon was the scourge of the german Jabos during this period.

If AH was more realist the typhoon and the mossie would be more deadly than they are.
I've demonstred the impact  of the [expletive] fuel mutiplier [expletive again] on the typhoon.

who fly at cruise speed ? [expletive]

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« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2005, 03:29:17 AM »
Overall Aircraft Stats
Model    Kills    Deaths    Kill%    Death%    K/DRatio

La-7   19238   14847   6.60   5.10     1.30

N1K2    16522    13105    5.67    4.50    1.26

Spitfire V   14720   14657   5.05   5.03   1.00

Typhoon IB   12738   7887   4.37   2.71   1.61


Typhoon is the number 4  in kills  but with much better kd as the LA 7

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« Reply #52 on: May 20, 2005, 04:11:58 AM »
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Originally posted by straffo
Wing with me and let see if I'm timid.


you will have to pay me for that...

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« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2005, 04:29:01 AM »
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Originally posted by Flyboy
you will have to pay me for that...


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« Reply #54 on: May 20, 2005, 07:06:44 AM »
:rofl

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« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2005, 07:33:06 AM »
La7 is more effective than just about any of the perked planes yet remains unperked?

Put a 2pt perk on it and you'd never see it.

As far as timid Tiff's goes...well the 500 odd people I killed last tour were too surprised to think I was timid.

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« Reply #56 on: May 20, 2005, 07:57:23 AM »
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Nothing wrong with the lala some people run some don't u all hate it because it has speed and has 20mm lol


Loves tiffy too:eek:



I hate it because there are so MANY of them.  :D

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« Reply #57 on: May 20, 2005, 08:15:28 AM »
I think all mid and late war planes should be perked just to even the balance in the way planes are used.  Or how about this idea, planes can be used by rank.  certain rank will allow u to use late war planes. mid war be at another rank. and so on.  At least after every month reset on scores and rank everyone has to fly 1941-42 era planes until the ranks are set.


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« Reply #58 on: May 20, 2005, 09:04:53 AM »
The thing is there will ALWAYS be whinage about "the best plane" because there will always be one. There will always be a plane that is fastest or has biggest gun.

Perk the LaLa and the whinage will move down one step in the food chain.

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« Reply #59 on: May 20, 2005, 10:15:35 AM »
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Originally posted by FX1
So your a lala driver thats not a problem,


What gave you that idea?  I am glad to see that you don't consider it a problem though  :rolleyes:

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what we are saying that a typie takes skill to drive. Because of this factor you see better sticks in the typie than you see in the lala. This could make the typie look like a more powerfull aircraft but in the end it isnt its the driver.


BS.  A tiffy may take more skill to drive than a lala (not sure about that) but that DOES NOT mean that the better sticks fly it.  Most of the time it's used by HO, run, and vulch tards.  Some of the most timid pilots I have ever met in the MA were in Tiffys.  And no, I am not saying that all the tiffy pilots are bad.

Its like saing that becaue someone flies a SpitV he sucks and since I have flown the p40 for a couple of tours, I must be really good (not true).  

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Never mind, just checked your stats.  I see why you think what you think, lol
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