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Offline Captain Virgil Hilts

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« Reply #60 on: June 02, 2005, 01:03:17 PM »
Judging by what I've seen, I don't think it really has dampened the spikes as much. I don't see one country outnumbering the other two combined as being any less of a numbers spike. So maybe it's a different country now, and maybe the new underdog just fights instead of whining.

Further, fighting 5 or more players in ENY 35+ planes alone in an ENY 5 or less plane leaves you still facing 5:1 odds, and just as likely dead, if you are an average player. You MIGHT live a minute or two longer, and maybe even score some hits, or possibly a kill. But you'll still be just as dead. Facing 5 P-40E's in a Spit XI is not a great deal better than facing 5 LA7's in a Spit XI. And even if the ENY system converts it from 5 LA7's to 4 P-40E's, big deal.

When a country with as many people as both of the others smells a reset, or whatever drives them, they'll fly whatever they can to go for the reset. Unless at least one of the other two countries is well organized, they'll still be over run. The best the ENY system offers is a prolonging. Oh, and the opportunity to feel better because you're getting killed in a plane with an ENY rating 1/8 that of your 4 or 5 enemies because they can't have planes with an ENY rating nearly as good as yours.

Hey, you had to do something, so you made a decision and followed through. You could have done worse, or you could have done better. It worked out okay. That makes you human, and a pretty decent business man.
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« Reply #61 on: June 02, 2005, 01:20:25 PM »
So last night the Bishes were defending 2 fields and a horde was attacking a third owned by another country?

That twirks me...  If those tools attacking the third field had been defending one of the fields instead of racking up kills we could have held out against the swarm of GVs and bombers better; maybe even taken it to the Knights.  Instead we "lost".


But had a blast doing so  :D

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« Reply #62 on: June 02, 2005, 01:43:29 PM »
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« Reply #63 on: June 02, 2005, 01:44:41 PM »
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So last night the Bishes were defending 2 fields and a horde was attacking a third owned by another country?

That twirks me...  If those tools attacking the third field had been defending one of the fields instead of racking up kills we could have held out against the swarm of GVs and bombers better; maybe even taken it to the Knights.  Instead we "lost".


But had a blast doing so  :D


Only defense in this game is a good offense.  Sooner or later that tenacious defense will collapse and if you haven't taken at least one base in the interim, your number of bases will absolutely decrease.

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« Reply #64 on: June 02, 2005, 01:55:20 PM »
Sorry, I thought the thread said "Country Humping"




carry on...

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« Reply #65 on: June 02, 2005, 01:59:01 PM »
Best way to overcome the one-sided fights is to take the land grab completely out of the game. What is the point to hoarding when you can't get anymore perks?

Then again, I'm fed up with the land grabbing, good for nothing arm-chair generals that get 'wet' from taking unopposed bases with 15 guys while a few sectors away the other side does the same thing.

The object to AH is to enjoy the enviornment while shooting another virtual player down; learning and developing new manuvers to make such an objective easier, is the progression.

Anyone can take a base from day 1, and the skills for doing so don't progress.

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« Reply #66 on: June 02, 2005, 02:04:40 PM »
WTF??


The object to AH is to capture the map and win...............






quah???



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« Reply #67 on: June 02, 2005, 02:23:19 PM »
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Only defense in this game is a good offense.  Sooner or later that tenacious defense will collapse and if you haven't taken at least one base in the interim, your number of bases will absolutely decrease.


While the theory is true, reality usually turns out way differently.

A few hours before the reset the A1/A2/A5 fiasco proved it. For every single base we took, we lost on average 3.
Why? Because 90% of the Bish were flying against 1 base (A2) that they never took, and in fact lost A1 behind them.

We lost A16, got it back real quickly, but didn't get reinforcements to hold it, therefore within 10 mins we lost it again, and still had 90% of the Bish at A5.
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« Reply #68 on: June 02, 2005, 02:34:21 PM »
I can say I personaly enjoy being able to  go where I want. I got a thrill out of defending against the horde for a long time, now that I got over the chess piece loyalty I can switch up to make things more enjoyable ( kinda the point). Why stay somewhere when everyone is whining about defense, conversely, why stay somewhere where your in a hoard hoping to get a few rounds off at a plane upping.

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« Reply #69 on: June 02, 2005, 03:30:49 PM »
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With the ENY system. Those complaining , are now the Big side. Can they do somthing to help balance the sides.

Answere yes.

HiTech


I think you are right.  They can do something about it.  But do they? No.  Because the game is based on winning the war.  The people that fought for a day or two to win, are not going to change.  Even if they can't fly what they want, they will complain but not change because they are about to win anyways.  It was a great idea, and better than doing nothing about the issue.  I just don't think its working the way we wanted to.  And, no, I don;t have the solution, we are just talking here.  I thought the ENY was going to be it.
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« Reply #70 on: June 02, 2005, 03:35:42 PM »
From High Techs answer I glean the following for myself it may effect you differently:

1.  Play the game as it is

2.  If I don't like the ENY, then  log off

3.  It ain't gonna change

So basically I just play the game until I don't like what's going on, then I log off and do other things.  Or play other games.  That will certainly reduce the numbers inbalance.  However, having your customers chose to not play your game and do other things seems a bit unwise.

HT gets the subscription money (which at $15 a month is an incredible bargain).  But the arena loses another player.

It is numbers in the arena that generate more numbers, which generate more intrest, which generates more paying customers.

As for the ENY system, like the perk system, like LA7's and all the other stuff, it aint' a gonna change boyz n girlz.

So play on the side you are on, switch sides, or log off.
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« Reply #71 on: June 02, 2005, 04:02:06 PM »
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Originally posted by AKFokerFoder+
From High Techs answer I glean the following for myself it may effect you differently:

1.  Play the game as it is

2.  If I don't like the ENY, then  log off

3.  It ain't gonna change

So basically I just play the game until I don't like what's going on, then I log off and do other things.  Or play other games.  That will certainly reduce the numbers inbalance.  However, having your customers chose to not play your game and do other things seems a bit unwise.

HT gets the subscription money (which at $15 a month is an incredible bargain).  But the arena loses another player.

It is numbers in the arena that generate more numbers, which generate more intrest, which generates more paying customers.

As for the ENY system, like the perk system, like LA7's and all the other stuff, it aint' a gonna change boyz n girlz.

So play on the side you are on, switch sides, or log off.



Pretty much what it sounds like to me. "BUT" you hve to look at it from his perspective.....
You can make some of the people happy some of the time...
It is IMPOSSIBLE to make everyone happy all of the time.  

When and if AH goes the way of AW then well all have to find another sim and it'll be the same thing all over again. There will be whining and crying and bickering and backbiting and pizzin and moanin and on and on and on.......




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« Reply #72 on: June 02, 2005, 04:08:13 PM »
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The object to AH is to enjoy the enviornment while shooting another virtual player down


Especially shooting fighters down in an Osti!  :p


i dont got enough perkies as it is and i like upen my lancs to kill 1 dang t 34 or wirble its fun droping 42 bombs

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« Reply #73 on: June 02, 2005, 08:44:21 PM »
Easy solution to all the probelms...
Cowbells....we need more cowbells.

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« Reply #74 on: June 02, 2005, 11:05:32 PM »
I guess I just don't see what the big deal is.

If the country with the largest numbers can't use ALL the A/C in the inventory big whoop!! If you have numbers you can take a field with five C47's and a bunch of IL2's or 109 something or others.

15-20 planes and two C47's are more threatening than 3 Tempests and one C47.

Just my 2cents