Author Topic: Country jumping & ENY Fact or Fiction (Read 3624 times)

dedalos · « **Reply #75 on:** June 03, 2005, 09:09:31 AM »

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Originally posted by MOIL
I guess I just don't see what the big deal is.

If the country with the largest numbers can't use ALL the A/C in the inventory big whoop!! If you have numbers you can take a field with five C47's and a bunch of IL2's or 109 something or others.

15-20 planes and two C47's are more threatening than 3 Tempests and one C47.

Just my 2cents

No big deal. It just does not work. We are just having a descusion about it. Just some people assume that if you say something does not work, you are whining about not being able to fly the planes you like or that you don;t want to switch sides.

hitech · « **Reply #76 on:** June 03, 2005, 11:05:36 AM »

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Just some people assume that if you say something does not work, you are whining

You are whining if you are igorning the facts, just to try support an argument about somthing that works but you just don't like it.

HiTech

HavocTM · « **Reply #77 on:** June 03, 2005, 11:08:52 AM »

Dolts

sorry, couldn't resist!

Grits · « **Reply #78 on:** June 03, 2005, 11:25:13 AM »

What Moil said.

SlapShot · « **Reply #79 on:** June 03, 2005, 11:34:44 AM »

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Originally posted by AKFokerFoder+
From High Techs answer I glean the following for myself it may effect you differently:

1. Play the game as it is

2. If I don't like the ENY, then log off

3. It ain't gonna change

So basically I just play the game until I don't like what's going on, then I log off and do other things. Or play other games. That will certainly reduce the numbers inbalance. However, having your customers chose to not play your game and do other things seems a bit unwise.

HT gets the subscription money (which at $15 a month is an incredible bargain). But the arena loses another player.

It is numbers in the arena that generate more numbers, which generate more intrest, which generates more paying customers.

As for the ENY system, like the perk system, like LA7's and all the other stuff, it aint' a gonna change boyz n girlz.

So play on the side you are on, switch sides, or log off.

The amount of people logging due to the ENY restriction placed upon them, I would bet dollars to donuts, is no where near the numbers that were logging when they were being beaten into the ground by the hordes flying P-51s, La-7s, and all the other lower ENY planes.

HT must consider this equation a winner.

SlapShot · « **Reply #80 on:** June 03, 2005, 11:38:35 AM »

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Originally posted by MOIL
I guess I just don't see what the big deal is.

If the country with the largest numbers can't use ALL the A/C in the inventory big whoop!! If you have numbers you can take a field with five C47's and a bunch of IL2's or 109 something or others.

15-20 planes and two C47's are more threatening than 3 Tempests and one C47.

Just my 2cents

Absolutely !!!

Are 10 P-51s more threatening than 10 P-47-D25s (or D11s)... me thinks not !!! They are just as, if not more, devasting.

tactic · « **Reply #81 on:** June 03, 2005, 01:45:51 PM »

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Originally posted by SlapShot
Absolutely !!!
1...
Are 10 P-51s more threatening than 10 P-47-D25s (or D11s)... me thinks not !!! They are just as, if not more, devasting.
2....

2. The amount of people logging due to the ENY restriction placed upon them, I would bet dollars to donuts, is no where near the numbers that were logging when they were being beaten into the ground by the hordes flying P-51s, La-7s, and all the other lower ENY planes.

This is just a discussion not a arguement to make enemies.
Ok be cool, i'm just discussing this issue, not flaming or slaming.

Is it me or are these statements (quotes) contradicting?
I agree with the top statement. 1.

10- p47s are just as, if not more Devasting then p-51. P-51s no more a threat then p47s.

Lets change the bottom statement just a little... 2.

I would bet dollars to donuts , is no where near the numbers that were logging when they were being beaten into the ground by the hordes flying P-47's-D25s, p-47-D11s, la-5s and all the other higher ENY planes. <--- ok so whey the ENY limits?

I would like to know whats the Big threat from low eny planes? I really dont understand, Please dont be mean if you have a answer about this question, I dont really know all the exact reasons for these planes to be in the low eny catagory. (I realize the la7 may be faster at 20k or what ever then all other planes)(until you hear the la7 driver say"how is this "p47" catching my la7?") <--- kinda ruins the reason for eny on the la7)

I like 1 plane thats low ENY (under 20), not all of them.

Wonder also, if the plane set was not "rated" would there even be this discussion. It seems like the ENY might cause this syndrome, I'd love to know ,if from the start of AH, if none of the planes were "rated" would the planes rated low ENY now, be a issue? I seriously doubt it.

I dont think 95% of the people would even think twice about being attacked by 10 p-51 no more then 10 p-47s attacking.

HT try this for a week or month.................(i know you wont just something to think about if it did happen)

Remove the ENY on all the planes and lose the perks, make all planes available. I'll bet those that fly 109's 190's p47's 205's all the high eny will not all of a sudden start flying all the low eny planes. Let say they do, well then they be fighting the same plane and have no advantage, except for the knowledge of how to fly that plane better then the other la7 driver ,if they have taken the time to learn that plane more. It would be 262 time for about 2 hours til those realize (If your not Fester you really dont want to fly the 262 because you die alot, and will never slow down enough to land, thats after you finally get the dang thing moving).

I discuss this not to be "self-serving" its not that important to me-(self), If that was true, then it would be "self-serving" for the people that argue "for" the ENY . We just differ in opinions. , and I'm throwing in my 2 cents happens only because I got like 5 dollars in pennies.

dedalos · « **Reply #82 on:** June 03, 2005, 01:51:20 PM »

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Originally posted by hitech
You are whining if you are igorning the facts, just to try support an argument about somthing that works but you just don't like it.

HiTech

On the contrary. I never ignore the fact that if one does not agree with you (right or wrong) then he is a whiner nor that eventually the name calling will start. Just to avoid future confusions, as you have sudgested in the past, if I need to contact you or support I will do it through email. Here, I am only talking to other members of this BBs.

And by the way, it does not work. I though it would, but it did not.

Kev367th · « **Reply #83 on:** June 03, 2005, 01:56:07 PM »

Making them all free leads to chaos.
When the main MA went down not so long ago people migrated over to the Backup MA.
All you could see were 262s.

Don · « **Reply #84 on:** June 03, 2005, 01:57:39 PM »

>>first off, what makes you think that people are switching countries for the reset, and not just plain logging off<<

Awww jeez JB! And what makes you think they aren't?
Geez, this has been happening for the past 2 years or so

, and it was happening when you and yer squaddies were flying Rooks. It is not a very attractive action and many do it.
I don't see any way of stopping it either. But, if it is becoming obvious to some, then it is probably getting out of hand. Doesn't mean it aint happening.

hitech · « **Reply #85 on:** June 03, 2005, 02:02:40 PM »

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And by the way, it does not work. I though it would, but it did not.

Great opinion with out looking at any facts as to how balanced things realy have been since the implimatation of the ENY.

Realy strange that you don't even consider the current imalance will proably be very short lived do to the ENY.

HiTech

Don · « **Reply #86 on:** June 03, 2005, 02:05:14 PM »

>>who have been on the same side since beta. How boring that must be. <<

Not boring at all Morpheus

With the exceptrion of a brief tour as a Nit just after the beta ended, my squad and I have flown Rook exclusively, through thick and thin.
Now as a Rook, when Rooks had huge numbers most nights, me and my squaddies would know who was a "Rook" and who wasn't; especially when we were close to a reset. We just turned our noses up at em. Hehe, it was kinda funny to have shot down some of em on a previous hop, only to have them resurface behind or in front of while taking off, as friendlies

Kev367th · « **Reply #87 on:** June 03, 2005, 02:15:41 PM »

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Originally posted by hitech
Great opinion with out looking at any facts as to how balanced things realy have been since the implimatation of the ENY.

Realy strange that you don't even consider the current imalance will proably be very short lived do to the ENY.

HiTech

Never, ever thought I'd say this, but I for once I agree with HT.
OMG the worlds ending.

Only time you really see numbers swelling is when a reset is in the offing, and yes this is due to jumpers.

HavocTM · « **Reply #88 on:** June 03, 2005, 02:19:05 PM »

Hell freezing over in 5, 4, 3.....

dedalos · « **Reply #89 on:** June 03, 2005, 02:27:12 PM »

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Originally posted by hitech
Great opinion with out looking at any facts as to how balanced things realy have been since the implimatation of the ENY.

Realy strange that you don't even consider the current imalance will proably be very short lived do to the ENY.

HiTech

Well, you are right. I did not look at how balanced things were in the past. I was focusing on the few days that the thing went creasy. I think this is how the conversation started and like everything else in here it got out of hand and into a different subject when people started calling opinions whines, assuming they know how everyone else plays the game, knowing when if and what you will be changing etc. Also, I never said things would not balance again.

So, over all you are right, things have been balanced. Was it because of the ENY or just another cycle. I don;t know so I will take your word for it. On those few days that it hit the extreme it did not help enyone.