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Offline Pooface

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« on: June 07, 2005, 06:24:47 AM »
now im sure most of you will remeber blah, who suggested that the ma be made free. now at first we all thought ha ha ha, what an idiot.

ive had an idea. would it be possible just to make the training arena free. a while back, when i was unsubscribed, i found it very hard to learn in the stupid ffa's in h2h. i think that if just the training arena was free, it would actually encourage people to subscribe.

not much happens in there, there's no real action coz of lethality, and i think it could reallly help noobs who are still learning, and have run out of free time. i personally found that my lack of skill was offputting at the time, and by making only the training arena free, it helps im sure

now, dont go too harsh on me, because its just a suggestion, but it would really help those that are thining of subscribing:aok

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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2005, 06:35:00 AM »
good idea

Offline Pooface

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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2005, 06:39:43 AM »
why thankyou truekill

maybe it could be so you have 2 weeks in all arenas, and 4 weeks free in the ta?

im just saying this because 2 weeks isnt enough i feel to really learn and get into the game

of course what we dont want is people who just play in the ta, and never subscribe,and clog up the arena because they dont want to play h2h. so maybe, like i said above we should have an extended free period in the ta only:confused:

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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2005, 06:57:41 AM »
I think the TA should be made free. I only say this because I have two members in my squad that I got from the TA. I went there and taught them, got them more intrested in the game and helped take some of the edge off of the STEEP learning curve AH has. One of them said he played in the MA once but didnt really care for it. He has now been a member going on six months. This is due to me helping him in the TA so he can survive in the MA. So I say make the TA free. If not the whole time atleast for an extra two weeks on top of the free two weeks given.

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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2005, 07:55:33 AM »
Pooface, part of the problem is that 4 weeks iisn't enough to learn the game either. Although it will get you closer to staying alive.

If you make the TA free, it will be full of guys who can't/wont pay for the main.

So forget any thought of trying to teach someone. Trainers would be busy nonstop just doing damage control.

Can you imagine trying to teach someone basic merge tatics with a couple of hundred 14 year olds trying to HO you constantly?

Thanks but NO WAY guys. Your talking about my version of hell.

You want help, pay HTC the first 15$ and I'm yours. And thats the way it should be IMO.

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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2005, 10:42:23 AM »
Yeah its a brill idea AH does require a lot of effort to get the hang of it.

Problem is a lot of ppl are morons and like Ghosth said the TA would become a mess.

it would only work with a lot of monitoring and once you kicked some one they would create a new acc and bugger it up again for everyone again until their IP got blocked.

But you could always have a TA by request where ppl have to ask via email or something like that again it might not be worth the hassle.

Maybe there could be a training room option in the h2h setup (never done h2h so I don't know jack about it)

I do think that AH might get more ppl to sign up for it if it was  implemented but again it may not be feasible.


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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2005, 10:59:44 AM »
Two weeks are deffinetly not enough to learn.  They are however, more than enough to decide if you want to play this game or not.  If you like it, you pay 50 cents a day to learn it cause four weeks are not going to help you anyway.  What else can you find for that money anyway?
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2005, 11:04:34 AM »
yes, this was my problem with it aswell.

i think the key would be to add some free time onto the trail, just for ta that is. the hard part is getting the balance right between enough time to learn, and enough to keep idiots out. i agree with ghost, that itd be hard to police, so maybe it wouldnt be so bad if htc set up another arena like chat and set id in h2h, like you said.

if we had a little more space than 8 players, we could still teach numbers of people.

im really not sure, its very hard to come up with a balanced solution. maybe htc could think about it in more detail than we have, because thats all this post is, a suggestion. i think its up to htc to decide, but i would reccomend a 4 - 6 week trail in ta.

im really not sure about it, but some amount of extra time would really benefit the community and the new players

any thoughts from the htc gang?

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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2005, 11:12:07 AM »
Why in the hell should the trainers; players devoting their free time and paying their 15 bucks a month to helping others, spend it helping someone who is along for a free ride?

That's just a freeloaders way of going about things.

You have two weeks. Two weeks to get established with how things are done. As soon as you log in to Ace High you are presented with several options. One of them is in big black letters, "Training Arena".

Duh... Two weeks is more than enough time to get your feet wet.

Will you learn all the ins' and outs' within that two week time? Nope.

But you'll get a general idea of how to play and even how to survive in the MA.

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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2005, 11:19:29 AM »
hey hey hey, no need to be aggressive morph. this is what im saying. mussie suggested very well, that maybe we should set up a training arena in h2h, rather like the chat and set id arena that is running at the moment. it allows for 32 ppl instead of the usual 8, and is free, but still denies any access to any paid-for arenas.

maybe we should try something like that?

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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2005, 11:30:41 AM »
Morph

The last thing anyone needs is a bunch of blah69's working the system.

The guys at HTC put in a lot of work for AH and in no way am I suggesting that HT allow ppl to free load off their effort.

I just think that a lot of today's generation have been spoon fed online gaming with quake ect (something that requires no real understanding of the environment they play in) and they suffer a bit of a culture shock when they enter AH.

If they learn to control their AC with a degree of skill they will feel the thrill of AH and want to play, therefore they will pay.

Just my thoughts on the subject, no need to bur up mate :)


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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2005, 11:36:17 AM »
>>Two weeks is more than enough time to get your feet wet.

Will you learn all the ins' and outs' within that two week time? Nope.

But you'll get a general idea of how to play and even how to survive in the MA<<

I tend to agree. And there are some new guys who seem to wind up in the MA w/o spending any time in the TA. They are usually the ones who ask: 'how do I start my engines?, how do I shoot my guns?, how do I drop bombs? etc.
It's been a long time for me but, I wonder if there could be some way to post a suggestion to all who sign up for a 2 week trial, which would direct them immediately to the TA for some instruction...kinda like flight training for novices. This might also insure more steady trainees for our Trainers.

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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2005, 11:40:07 AM »
thats a very good idea. i dont know whether we could put a little suggestion box in, when new players first enter the online experience. maybe like one of the little survey boxes, saying 'it is reccomended that new players learn to fly in the training arena'?

but yes don, very good point

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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2005, 11:47:10 AM »
I agree with Morph.  You don't need to play for free until you become an ace.  You have two weeks to learn what types of gameplay are offered and how to participate in the arena, at least in a basic way.  It's meant as a taste, not as an entire learning period.  If trial players then decide that they like what they see enough to want to learn the game in depth, then they have to pay.  That's just the way things are.   It's like flying lessons in real life.  Often you can get one session free, and if you want to continue, you pay.

However, if I had to grant trial players extra time, I'd keep the existing two weeks trial and add one extra week where they can only play in the TA.

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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2005, 12:02:11 PM »
2 weeks is a lot of time without paying to "test drive" the game. AH has to stay in business and needs the income to keep this great game going. I think this is an outstanding opportunity to have for a committment to join. I have been "in" now for 3 years and I love it.