Author Topic: Flag Code (Read 1192 times)

Westy · « **Reply #15 on:** June 24, 2005, 09:05:42 AM »

Good point. It's obvious then that the US also needs a Constitutional amendment to stop people from painting thier property in zebra stripes or in bright pink with purple poka-dots.

lazs2 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 24, 2005, 09:17:38 AM »

It has nothing to do with free speech... it has to do with local ordinances and property values and "attractive nusance" laws.

You can't burn anything downtown without a permit... Is that an infringement on "free speech" or just a fire and air quality ordinance?

lazs

oboe · « **Reply #17 on:** June 24, 2005, 09:30:15 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
If you buy a flag you should be able to do anything you want with it so long as it doesn't break any laws or endanger anyone.

Well, thats the whole point of the amendment which has moved through the House. The "law" governing what you can and can't do with your flag is changing (read that becoming more restrictive).

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #18 on:** June 24, 2005, 09:32:46 AM »

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Originally posted by oboe
Well, thats the whole point of the amendment which has moved through the House. The "law" governing what you can and can't do with your flag is changing (read that becoming more restrictive).

Its the WAR people! The war is ON!! Its those damn liberal pansy women congressman that are curtailing our freedoms! ITS WAR!!

lazs2 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 24, 2005, 09:37:40 AM »

oboe... I understand that but... there should be no way that such a law could be made. Free speech is a stretch in the extreme tho... I would think that private property rights would be enough... "you own the flag? ok, then do what you want so long as you don't break any local laws."

By "laws" I mean that the damn law against burning private property like a flag should have no other restriction than burning anything should...if you are allowed to burn trash there then you can burn a flag there.

lazs

Suave · « **Reply #20 on:** June 24, 2005, 09:39:07 AM »

Burn the flag if you must. But before you do you better burn a few other things. Better burn your house and your car, and all of your clothes, and be sure to burn your TV too. Because none of those things would exist without five white stripes, seven red stripes, and a hell of a lot of stars!!!

Shane · « **Reply #21 on:** June 24, 2005, 09:41:54 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
if you are allowed to burn trash there then you can burn a flag there.
lazs

why you calling our flag trash?!?!

burn lazs!!!

lazs2 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 24, 2005, 09:56:00 AM »

come try it sissy boy!

Anything I own becomes trash if I own it long enough. I am a consumer.

lazs

oboe · « **Reply #23 on:** June 24, 2005, 10:01:04 AM »

Burning your trash is not an insult to veterans who fought and died for the country though. A flag, as the symbol of our Nation, is different than other private property.

The whole thing is a stupid waste of time, IMO. Its just one more law on the books to spend money arguing about and enforcing, appealing, etc.

I find burning the flag as protest ignorant in the extreme, because you are desecrating the symbol of the Nation that protects your right to dissent (or should anyway). Its an act really unworthy of any American. Protesting our government by burning the flag is simply illogical.

Shane · « **Reply #24 on:** June 24, 2005, 10:08:15 AM »

let's play a game, guess the paraphrased quotee...

"while i may not agree with what you say, i will defend with my death your right to say it."

an anti-flag burning amendment is more insulting to the vets who have died for it than it being burned in protest.

think about that... unless it's too convoluted.

Chairboy · « **Reply #25 on:** June 24, 2005, 10:10:09 AM »

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Originally posted by Suave
Burn the flag if you must. But before you do you better burn a few other things. Better burn your house and your car, and all of your clothes, and be sure to burn your TV too. Because none of those things would exist without five white stripes, seven red stripes, and a hell of a lot of stars!!!

Nelson Muntz for president!

lazs2 · « **Reply #26 on:** June 24, 2005, 10:11:14 AM »

oboe... I agree. There needs to be no law tho. People get insulted all the time. I am not gonna curb my freedom based on the possibility of insulting someone tho unless it is my choice.

lazs

Westy · « **Reply #27 on:** June 24, 2005, 10:27:20 AM »

"....none of those things would exist without five white stripes, seven red stripes, and a hell of a lot of stars!!! "

lol

All this time I thought it was because I did well in school, got a good job and worked very hard.

Makes me wonder how in hell people who live in countries like Poland, Samoa or Chile are able to do it without "five white stripes, seven red stripes, and a hell of a lot of stars!!!"

What a condundrum!

Chairboy · « **Reply #28 on:** June 24, 2005, 10:31:09 AM »

Westy, it's from a Simpsons episode. The excerpt in particular was from an elementary student's patriotic essay on the flag.

So don't hurt yourself too much trying to work it out.

Westy · « **Reply #29 on:** June 24, 2005, 10:39:19 AM »

I never watched the Simpsons. So I did not get that but I guess I should have taken it as sarcasm? If so I don't get why he punctuated his post with the angry face thingy. Seems a wink or smiley would have made that clearer.

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