Author Topic: A solution to Lavochkin La-7 (wheter you like it or not) (Read 3612 times)

Kweassa · « **Reply #30 on:** June 24, 2005, 03:33:01 PM »

I am quite confident that a NEW ICON SYSTEM is gonna resolve the LA-7 issue once and for all:

SlapShot · « **Reply #31 on:** June 24, 2005, 03:39:27 PM »

huh? take a look at my plane of choice last few tours and tell me im running from anything in a 38G?!

I don't think that anybody was accusing you, personally, of being a runner ... I know I wasn't ... I know how you fly. You are part of a very small minority.

I don't fly as much as I use to, but I just don't see it like you do ... all I ever see, for the most part, are 109s and 190s boomin and zoomin all over the place ... even tho it irks me, it will be a cold day in hell when I realistically ask for them or any plane to be perked.

dedalos · « **Reply #32 on:** June 24, 2005, 03:41:20 PM »

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Originally posted by killnu
huh? take a look at my plane of choice last few tours and tell me im running from anything in a 38G?!

I am sure the running does not apply to you. The same though goes for the lala drivers. Not every La7 HOes and runs. I think its the pilots we need to focus on and not the planes. The la did not deside to fire its uber guns at the merge, the pilot did.

My point is, nothing will get acomplished by perking the LA7 other than giving the D9 drivers a free ride. You will be getting HOed by a different plane thats the only difference you will notice. Game play/style and the MA will not change even if the LA7 was gone.

I get pissed off sometimes when I get sarounded by LA7s, D9s, 51s, or anything that will just HO extend Ho extend Ho . . . . . But then I think to myself, its a good thing those guys did not fly Spits, A6Ms, NIKIs cause I'd be dead.

Do I want 3 spits on my tail or 3 LA7s? I'll take the LAs any day.

SlapShot · « **Reply #33 on:** June 24, 2005, 03:46:11 PM »

Thanks for the info on the La-7 variants ... very interesting ... but would the 2 cannon version still run the P-51 down ?

Most don't know how to get the most out of a P-51D by using it's flaps.

Same holds true for the majority of those that fly the La-7 ... they are pickers and opportunist just like the majority of the P-51s.

Its just when the clueless P-51 pilots run into the clueless La-7 pilots, it all boils down to speed and the P-51 loses ... which infuriates them to no end.

Karnak · « **Reply #34 on:** June 24, 2005, 03:48:38 PM »

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Originally posted by dedalos
I am sure the running does not apply to you. The same though goes for the lala drivers. Not every La7 HOes and runs. I think its the pilots we need to focus on and not the planes. The la did not deside to fire its uber guns at the merge, the pilot did.

The La-7 is, however, an enabler for people inclined to do those things. The Tiifie, Dora, G-10 and 51 are as well, but they are not as good of enablers.

dedalos · « **Reply #35 on:** June 24, 2005, 03:56:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
The La-7 is, however, an enabler for people inclined to do those things. The Tiifie, Dora, G-10 and 51 are as well, but they are not as good of enablers.

Sure they are. Nothing will catch a D9 and nothing will survive a HO from a Tiffie or a G10 with 30mm. If the LA is not available any longer, I bet it will be D9 that takes its place and not the NIKI or the tiffi. But as you said, its is an anabler for people that chose to play that way. We shoudl focus on that. If these guys have nothing else available, they will HO you and try to run in Spit 1 (have actually seen it against me in a 110)

john9001 · « **Reply #36 on:** June 24, 2005, 04:05:50 PM »

lalas are nothing, i dive into ferball last week, kill 2 lalas before a third one shoot down my F6F.

killnu · « **Reply #37 on:** June 24, 2005, 04:14:37 PM »

like i said, i see your points...and also like i said at end of post, cant expect people to fly other planes when it is easier for them to have fun in easier planes to fly and do well in...just taking me some time to realize that...well, to accept that is better way of putting it.

Morpheus · « **Reply #38 on:** June 24, 2005, 04:20:37 PM »

too much thinking in a game that is saposed to be fun.

its like trying to solve calculus equations while your getting laid... its like, why?

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #39 on:** June 24, 2005, 05:01:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Morpheus
too much thinking in a game that is saposed to be fun.

its like trying to solve calculus equations while your getting laid... its like, why?

I agree. Totally. I mean, its hard enough to remember their name till afterward as it is, why would you want to solve complex math problems too? Duh.

bj229r · « **Reply #40 on:** June 24, 2005, 09:01:03 PM »

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Originally posted by humble
What difference does it make....lala is one of the easiest planes in the game to beat 1 on 1. The bigger issue is the "horde"....you dont get 1 on 1's....

Yestersay morning I flew a Jabo hap in a D hog...pickled the 1000pders and scooted after a pony...tickled him but he got enough extension so I was just following him back to his base...anyway a G10 comes on in...am I worried about the G10 or the pony....nope. It's the stinking IL-2 lumbering in that has me worried. I can play with the pony and G10 all day....but the moment that IL-2 gets inside 2.0 my options go all to hell.

Lala's are probably the lowest single threat plane in the MA....

I normally agree with Humble on things such as this, but La7's are only a non-threat if a noob is flying them--last couple camps, some talented vets are flying La7's exclusively--look at Coors, for example...lol, it ought to be illegal for guys like him to fly Lala's

1K3 · « **Reply #41 on:** June 24, 2005, 09:59:25 PM »

crap

this thread turned to never-ending "ooo i can beat LAs with ease".

just wanna point out if 1944 La-7 should be the representation of OUR La-7.

1K3 · « **Reply #42 on:** June 24, 2005, 10:04:07 PM »

for those who did not see the link

La 7 No.452101-39

During the period August 1944 La7 serial No.452101-39 underwent production test trials at the NII-VVS. Below is some of the data from those tests.
http://www.btinternet.com/~fulltilt/Perform.html#No.452101-39

La 7 No. 452132-76

During the period April 1945 La7 serial No.452132-76 underwent production test trials at the NII-VVS. Below is some of the data from those tests.
http://www.btinternet.com/~fulltilt/Perform.html#La%207%20No.%20452132-76

Ghosth · « **Reply #43 on:** June 25, 2005, 09:14:33 AM »

Well due mostly to all the whining from ALL the people about the poor La7. I have quit flying it entirely in favor of its slow brother, the La5fn.

You know what, I STILL chase down slow low ponys in it. I STILL dive through furballs again and again till I'm out of fuel or ammo.
I get just as many kills in the la5 as I did the 7. When I'm outnumbered anything still goes, from HO to drag em through the trees till they die.

I agree that the guys who really get bent about the la7 are flying the other fast planes. So if you want to perk it, better perk the 190D9, and the 109G10 and the pony the same.

Otherwise, leave em be and just learn to cope.

BTW wingman tatics will kill la7's all day long as will disimilar planes working together, ie spit & a pony or tiffy.

In fact wingman tatics work against everything as a general rule. If your struggling, you should be winging up with someone. 2 sets of eyes is always better than 1.

straffo · « **Reply #44 on:** June 25, 2005, 10:25:30 AM »

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Originally posted by Ghosth
Well due mostly to all the whining from ALL the people about the poor La7.

For the exact same reason I think I'll make the La7 my favorite plane.

1K3 no need to post 3 time the same link, Tilt play AH.