A solution to Lavochkin La-7 (wheter you like it or not)

[SuperDud]

Originally posted by Ghosth
Well due mostly to all the whining from ALL the people about the poor La7. I have quit flying it entirely in favor of its slow brother, the La5fn.

Ghosth, fly what you like. This is a game with the main goal is(for me anyway) to have fun. If the La7 is your ride, fly it. For example I like the EZ mode SpitV. Can I fly other planes..yes. But when it comes down to it, it's more  FUN to fly the spitty. If online aces think I'm dweeby, I'll try not to lose sleep over it.

[Rino]

Originally posted by SuperDud
Ghosth, fly what you like. This is a game with the main goal is(for me anyway) to have fun. If the La7 is your ride, fly it. For example I like the EZ mode SpitV. Can I fly other planes..yes. But when it comes down to it, it's more  FUN to fly the spitty. If online aces think I'm dweeby, I'll try not to lose sleep over it.

     It's never the plane that makes one a dweeb, trust me

[humble]

Originally posted by bj229r
I normally agree with Humble on things such as this, but La7's are only a non-threat if a noob is flying them--last couple camps, some talented vets are flying La7's exclusively--look at Coors, for example...lol, it ought to be illegal for guys like him to fly Lala's

A good pilot is a good pilot....and there are some great la-7 drivers. Now obviously if your locked up with "an ace" who happens to be in a lala you have your hands full....but I'd rather fight an ace in a lala then an ace in a spitV or a ki-84 or a 38J (as examples) it just isnt that tough as nut....a la-5 is actually a much tougher 1 on 1 (for me at least). In a multithreat enviorment like the MA the la-7 gives the best combination of speed and handling and a good stick can rack up the kills....but he'll score well regardless. A great many lala drivers rely on the planes performance well within the envelope and cant exploit it fully however.

[humble]

Originally posted by 1K3
crap

this thread turned to never-ending "ooo i can beat LAs with ease".

just wanna point out if 1944 La-7 should be the representation of OUR La-7.

A good pilot will beat a good plane close to 100% of the time, obviously if 2 good pilots meet the guy with the better plane (or numbers) has the edge...but the plane itself is the weakest part of the equation.

[Karnak]

All this ignores the point that having a 1945 La-7 and using it in 1944 scenarios, or if an East Front ToD ever happens, is like using the F4U-4 as an F4U-1D or a P-47M as a P-47D-40.

For that reason alone we need to see the La-7 split into 1944 and 1945 versions, irregardless of the perk status of either version after the split is done.

[AKFokerFoder+]

Little will change in the MA if you perk or pork the LA7's except the number of LA7's we see flown.

It is human behavior that is what people are for the most part whining about, although they express it as a LA7 (or other airplane) problem.

With or without LA7's there will be HO's, runners, cherry-pickers, tool-sheders', vulchers' etc.

I heard the same type of complaints when I flew WW1 sims:

     Uber planes, vulchers, hordes, HO attackers gang-banging, etc.

Perk the LA7, or pork the LA7's FM, or leave it alone. For little will change in the MA until human nature changes.  That is not likely to happen in my life time.

The MA is basically a anarchistic free-for-all.  You can't change the Main Arena by perking or porking the LA7, but you can change your attitude.   The MA is lots of fun if you let it be fun.

[Vad]

Originally posted by Ghosth
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I get just as many kills in the la5 as I did the 7.  

Sorry, I don't believe you.
I did exactly the same - switch from La-7 to La-5. It is just impossible to have the same number of kills, La-5 cannons are terrible! In La-7 I had 1 assist for 2 kills, now I have 2 assists for 1 kill. Don't tell me that you have another stat!

[Ghosth]

Vad, Shvks are actually pretty good cannons. Not up in hispanos for range, but inside 300 they do just fine.

Just get in close, give him a good burst and move on.

Normally I have no problem downing all 3 bombers in a formation. La7, or La5, = no difference.

Partly because I fly the la7 2 gun setup.
So nothing has changed for me.

Perhaps I'll die a bit more often in the la5, because I can't just exit the fight whenever I please.  But I really have not seen a difference.

[Ghosth]

Vad, After a quick check with the stats.

La5 18 kills 8 deaths

Had to go back a few tours to find enough la7 action, but it was.

La7 60 kills, 32 deaths.

So I'm actually doing better K/d wise in the la5.

Its certainly no huge difference between them IMO.

[ghi]

Originally posted by dedalos
Sure they are.  Nothing will catch a D9 and nothing will survive a HO from a Tiffie or a G10 with 30mm.  If the LA is not available any longer, I bet it will be D9 that takes its place and not the NIKI or the tiffi.  But as you said, its is an anabler for people that chose to play that way.  We shoudl focus on that.  If these guys have nothing else available, they will HO you and try to run in Spit 1 (have actually seen it against me in a 110)

 imo, Fw190D9, sux as fighter: poor firepower,turn rate ,... Is just good for boring BZers,hit and run, or high speed vulchers
 P51D is modeled all over better fighter than La7, i don't understand why are always complains about La7?!

[Vad]

Originally posted by Ghosth
Vad, After a quick check with the stats.

La5 18 kills 8 deaths

Had to go back a few tours to find enough la7 action, but it was.

La7 60 kills, 32 deaths.

So I'm actually doing better K/d wise in the la5.

Its certainly no huge difference between them IMO.

I don't want to say that K/D should change. La-5 is good fighter, and you should have the same K/D as in La-7.
If you flew La-7 with 2 cannons, yes, you should feel no difference.
I fly 3 cannon La-7, and I feel huge difference with La-5. 3 cannons are much better than 2. Actually, 4 cannons would be better than 3, but ...

[bj229r]

Russian cannons may not be as good as hizookas, but ive been exploded from La7's at 800+ more times than i care to remember

[Balsy]

Originally posted by Morpheus
too much thinking in a game that is saposed to be fun.

its like trying to solve calculus equations while your getting laid... its like, why?

Simple... cuz you want to impress the girl your with.. with you ability to "stay engaged" for a long time.  Nothing a girl likes better than a long engagement, turns, spins, repositioning, going for the "6"....she'll be impresssed with your "piloting" so who the hell cares what the pilot is "thinking" about.

Balsy

[dedalos]

Originally posted by ghi
imo, Fw190D9, sux as fighter: poor firepower,turn rate ,... Is just good for boring BZers,hit and run, or high speed vulchers
 P51D is modeled all over better fighter than La7, i don't understand why are always complains about La7?!

Exactly!  D9 drivers complain cause the lala is the only thing that can catch them, and when it does, they cannot fight.  51 is a little different since it is a fighter.  I don;t get why 51 drivers complain about lalas since if a lala catches them, the 51 can put up a good fight and kill the LA.  MAybe cause people never learned how to fly the 51 and only use it for its cool name, speed, and ord?

[Kweassa]

Stop confusing the two.

 If you kill a Lala easily, it's not the Lala that's easy to kill. It's the great majority of dumbprettythang pilots in the La-7s that don't know squat about fighting, who are easy to kill.

 Get a vet or a true-blue ace in a La-7 and see how 'easy' it's to shoot him down.

 I can kill all kinds of newbies in P-38Ls or Fw190Ds or P-51s and stuff, but that don't exactly mean that the said planes are sucky, does it?