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« Reply #105 on: July 02, 2005, 11:39:17 PM »
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But, for someone buying thier first handgun I wouldnt recommend the .357, I would suggest something less powerful that they could learn to shoot comfortably, and after plenty of practice, then move up to a large or stronger caliber.  

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Agree.

They could start with say... a .38 Special and learn to shoot that comfortably. The light loads are real easy on a beginner.

Then they could move up to say a .38 +P  loads for a few boxes and if they got comfortable with that...

they could move up to .357's.

And they could do it all with one revolver.  ;)
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« Reply #106 on: July 03, 2005, 12:26:47 AM »
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Agree.

They could start with say... a .38 Special and learn to shoot that comfortably. The light loads are real easy on a beginner.

Then they could move up to say a .38 +P  loads for a few boxes and if they got comfortable with that...

they could move up to .357's.

And they could do it all with one revolver.  ;)


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« Reply #107 on: July 03, 2005, 12:44:26 PM »
Sig Sauer P220 .45 Cal is the best weapon in my safe.

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« Reply #108 on: July 03, 2005, 01:32:49 PM »
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Sig Sauer P220 .45 Cal is the best weapon in my safe.


That is indeed an excellent weapon. One of my favorites.
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« Reply #109 on: July 03, 2005, 03:33:44 PM »
On the sig 220 in .45

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That is indeed an excellent weapon. One of my favorites.



I like mine so much I am tempted to buy another in stainless.

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« Reply #110 on: July 03, 2005, 03:41:22 PM »
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On the sig 220 in .45

 


I like mine so much I am tempted to buy another in stainless.


Mine is TT.

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« Reply #111 on: July 05, 2005, 09:10:53 AM »
well... if you are a woman or small italian then you probly should not own any revolvers.   It is best to just get a collection of very expensive semi autos and tell everyone that you don't like them and that shooting past 50 yards is impossible anyway.

If I were you tho dago... I would buy an old K frame smith in 22 caliber with the smallest grips available and try to learn to handle the recoil...  you could work up to larger revolvers (with small grips of course) untill you worked up to semi useful ones like the 38 special.

Of course... you will probly never be able to handle a real powerful hundgun but so long as you have a lot of short range semi autos that are "state of the art" around...

maybe no one will notice?

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« Reply #112 on: July 05, 2005, 11:06:28 AM »
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well... if you are a woman or small italian then you probly should not own any revolvers.   It is best to just get a collection of very expensive semi autos and tell everyone that you don't like them and that shooting past 50 yards is impossible anyway.

If I were you tho dago... I would buy an old K frame smith in 22 caliber with the smallest grips available and try to learn to handle the recoil...  you could work up to larger revolvers (with small grips of course) untill you worked up to semi useful ones like the 38 special.

Of course... you will probly never be able to handle a real powerful hundgun but so long as you have a lot of short range semi autos that are "state of the art" around...

maybe no one will notice?

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Shooting past 50 yards isn't impossible, it's just highly improbable.  How many self-defense situations take place at that distance?  You'd have a heck of a time explaining that in court.

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« Reply #113 on: July 05, 2005, 03:19:02 PM »
there's more to handguns than self defense...  even if it is one of the more fun things.

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« Reply #114 on: July 05, 2005, 03:22:18 PM »
I had a crappy Mak 90 AK, and a Ruger Single Six .357.


With my oldmans handloads I could shoot almost as well from a rest at 100 yards with the ruger.


When I shot it on the indoor rangers I always put the targets at 50 or 25 yards (max depending on the range) to make shooting a challenge.

Very accurate handgun.

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« Reply #115 on: July 05, 2005, 03:24:23 PM »
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Shooting past 50 yards isn't impossible, it's just highly improbable.  How many self-defense situations take place at that distance?  You'd have a heck of a time explaining that in court.


You...........ah...........do realize, that some states have legal HUNTING seasons that use handguns?  For example, deer hunting in Illinois.  My brother uses a Colt .44 Magnum with a 10 inch barrel for deer hunting during their handgun season.  The gun is considered accurate up to around 200 yards.

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« Reply #116 on: July 05, 2005, 03:24:28 PM »
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there's more to handguns than self defense...  even if it is one of the more fun things.

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Yeah.  I just assumed, wrongly I suppose, that he was looking for a carry piece.

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« Reply #117 on: July 06, 2005, 07:03:11 PM »
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well... if you are a woman or small italian then you probly should not own any revolvers.   It is best to just get a collection of very expensive semi autos and tell everyone that you don't like them and that shooting past 50 yards is impossible anyway.

If I were you tho dago... I would buy an old K frame smith in 22 caliber with the smallest grips available and try to learn to handle the recoil...  you could work up to larger revolvers (with small grips of course) untill you worked up to semi useful ones like the 38 special.

Of course... you will probly never be able to handle a real powerful hundgun but so long as you have a lot of short range semi autos that are "state of the art" around...

maybe no one will notice?

lazs


Funny lazs, but since you are kinda old I will not get indignant with you.

I am neither a woman, small or italian.

My .45 is now 33 years old, and I bought it new.  I have an idea how to handle it.  I also own a Browning Buckmark Bullseye that is fun to shoot, accurate, and came in handy while I was shooting in a competitive league.  I have also used it in bowling pin competitions and did quite well with it.  Those are two of my handguns.

I own a few other weapons, but unlike some, I do it because I enjoy them, not because it fills some need in me to bolster my self-confidence nor because I need to build up my self-esteem.  If that shoe fits you, feel free to wear it.

If you find you need to tell everyone about your weapons, it probably does fit.  Seems you have posted many many times about your weapons.  

As far as "short range" handguns, most handguns are of course "short range" weapons.  A few exceptions might be cited, such as the Thompson Contender, but the majority of shooters have the sense to realize that a rifle is a superior long range weapon.

Proper tool for the job.  Not many SWAT snipers are seen hunkering down preparing to take out a bad guy with a revolver.  Fact is, not many police or military carry revolvers anymore.  Gee, I wonder why that is?

The truth is out there if you look.

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« Reply #118 on: July 06, 2005, 07:21:17 PM »
It appears some one here is completely obsessed with the idea of a handgun being some sort of phallic symbol. It seems he's become fixated on the idea, and assumes eveyone else has the same fixation. I find it sadly amusing.
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« Reply #119 on: July 06, 2005, 08:26:53 PM »
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Proper tool for the job.  Not many SWAT snipers are seen hunkering down preparing to take out a bad guy with a revolver.  Fact is, not many police or military carry revolvers anymore.  Gee, I wonder why that is?

The truth is out there if you look.

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Uh hate to burst your bubble but here are a few bits of info for ya.

True, swat snipers do not use a handgun for sniping. They DO carry a handgun as part of their equipment. The rifle is a specialist piece for them, the main duty weapon they carry as a Police Officer is a handgun.

Second point. You will find that there are no Police Departments in the US that issue a rifle or a shot gun as a primary duty weapon for their Officers. They issue (or require the purchase of) a handgun.

Military Police Officers and Air Force Security personell are issued handguns. A baretta 9mm or for some, a S&W revolver for those with small hands.
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