Author Topic: Political explosion in t-5,4,3,2.... (Read 9066 times)

Eagler · « **Reply #195 on:** July 14, 2005, 05:31:59 PM »

like a said, this is the best ya got?

lol lol lol

ya got 3 more years to find better, keep digging girls...

DrDea · « **Reply #196 on:** July 14, 2005, 05:48:10 PM »

Now now.No need to go nasty with the "Girls" comment.Lets keep it as civil as we can shall we?
The 6 years was when her name was dropped.That would make it 8 years if your counting from now.Anyone still an "Asset" to the spy industry after 8 years wouldnt have been tasked to someone like her more than likely.Shes not in the field,hadnt been for 6 years when her name was broken out by a reportere that didnt even talk to Rove and Rove didnt even drop her name.Get off it guys.This hounding of the Bush admin just looks like sour grapes andsounds like a broken record.

Lizard3 · « **Reply #197 on:** July 14, 2005, 06:16:00 PM »

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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
ya ya.. hysterical little girls... that sums up the post made here..

Hehe, I called ya'll chromosome challenged and got bleeped!

Fer real, this is all ya'll got?

Nash · « **Reply #198 on:** July 14, 2005, 07:58:12 PM »

Respectfully DrDea, once again the CIA wouldn't have referred this to Justice if they didn't consider her covert. I'd think they'd know better than you, perhaps? Then Fitzgerald would have had to make a determination whether or not a crime took place before proceeding with an investigation that has lasted for over two years. Then, the judges would also would have to make a determination before even allowing the grand jury. He would certainly have to feel it was serious enough to have a journalist put in jail over it.... no?

I mean, what you seem to be saying is that all of this is happening - and none of them have any idea that there was no crime committed. That they have no idea whether or not Plame was covert. That they'll get to the end of the line and realize one day: "Hey wait a sec - Plame wasn't covert! OMG, our bad - carry on, nothing to see here."

Does that make sense to you? Certainly doesn't to me.

Krusher · « **Reply #199 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:02:03 PM »

In The Politics of Truth, former ambassador Joseph Wilson writes that he and his future wife both returned from overseas assignments in June 1997. Neither spouse, a reading of the book indicates, was again stationed overseas. They appear to have remained in Washington, D.C., where they married and became parents of twins.

This meant that Plame would have been stationed in the U.S. for six years before Bob Novak published his column citing her two years ago today.

The column's date is important because the law against unmasking the identities of U.S. spies says a "covert agent" must have been on an overseas assignment "within the last five years." The assignment also must be long-term, not a short trip or temporary post, two experts on the law say.

DrDea · « **Reply #200 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:22:42 PM »

What I dont understand here is the fact that 2 years later its "All of a sudden" a huge issue when the past 2 years its been a serious back burner issue.Dont you think thats kinda odd?Maby what Rove said was taken and run with.But it was run with by someone he didnt talk to.The Husband was a seriously outspoken Anti Bush advocate.He scoffed at the idea that Saddam tried to get Yellow cake.Key word there tried.That is what was being checked up on.Apparently he tried to get it and never did.This guy is a rabid anti war advocate and after coming back with the info that was sought out on the yellow cake all this happened.If it comes out that Rove did wrong I hope they burn his ass,but the fact is they have a few pissed off Democrats screaming for Roves head and thats not all that odd.Theyve been doing that for ever.Did he bust her out?I dont think so but I will be the first to admit Im wrong if he did.This just smacks of more attacking the Bush administration at any and all costs.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #201 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:26:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusher
In The Politics of Truth, former ambassador Joseph Wilson writes that he and his future wife both returned from overseas assignments in June 1997. Neither spouse, a reading of the book indicates, was again stationed overseas. They appear to have remained in Washington, D.C., where they married and became parents of twins.

This meant that Plame would have been stationed in the U.S. for six years before Bob Novak published his column citing her two years ago today.

The column's date is important because the law against unmasking the identities of U.S. spies says a "covert agent" must have been on an overseas assignment "within the last five years." The assignment also must be long-term, not a short trip or temporary post, two experts on the law say.

doesn't matter krusher. Rove named her...well not her but her as a wife in a 2 min conversation that happened in passing were she wasn't even the main topic of conversation nore the article.

He's signed a confidentiality waiver and he's testified before a grand jury 3 times now.

None of this matters to the democrats, his name is Karl Rove, he's a republican that works for Bush....he was "involved"

his head must roll.

Nash · « **Reply #202 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:42:19 PM »

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Originally posted by DrDea
What I dont understand here is the fact that 2 years later its "All of a sudden" a huge issue when the past 2 years its been a serious back burner issue.Dont you think thats kinda odd?Maby what Rove said was taken and run with.But it was run with by someone he didnt talk to.The Husband was a seriously outspoken Anti Bush advocate.He scoffed at the idea that Saddam tried to get Yellow cake.Key word there tried.That is what was being checked up on.Apparently he tried to get it and never did.This guy is a rabid anti war advocate and after coming back with the info that was sought out on the yellow cake all this happened.If it comes out that Rove did wrong I hope they burn his ass,but the fact is they have a few pissed off Democrats screaming for Roves head and thats not all that odd.Theyve been doing that for ever.Did he bust her out?I dont think so but I will be the first to admit Im wrong if he did.This just smacks of more attacking the Bush administration at any and all costs.

Entirely irrelevant.

Here the Wilson smear campaign kicks in. Next is Plame herself. Cooper is in for it too. After that, the CIA. Finally, Fitzgerald.

Problem is..... the justice system is deaf to these kinds of rants. So Rove finally runs up against a system that he can't bully. Fitzgerald can't be painted as, say, a wacked out war vet with an illegitimate black child to any effect. He, and the courts, don't need any votes. They see the law and apply it. That's it. They're immune to this stuff.

I don't know to what effect these predictible smears are supposed to have.... because ultimately this doesn't come down to public perception. Attack away, but it's not going to amount to squat. Rush listeners aren't gonna save anyone's bellybutton here.

DrDea · « **Reply #203 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:46:17 PM »

Listening to Rush is like listening to Teddy Kennedy.I still feel suprised whenever anyone takes either of those clowns seriously.

Nash · « **Reply #204 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:52:05 PM »

Well all that stuff you just wrote - where you gettin' it from - if you don't mind me askin'? I've seen several versions of the exact same thing today.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #205 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:52:09 PM »

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Originally posted by DrDea
Listening to Rush is like listening to Teddy Kennedy.I still feel suprised whenever anyone takes either of those clowns seriously.

I listen to him for 15 minutes driving home to grab lunch (if I get a lunch break)

today he was talking about the new study that came out that said blacks are worse off in LA than ever before.

Yesturday he ranted about a study that wanted to bann soda because it was bad for you.

frothing.....

DrDea · « **Reply #206 on:** July 14, 2005, 09:01:23 PM »

Nash...I bounce back and forth between CNN and FOX.I try to get as many sides as I can get and both of those have a diffrent view on the world.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #207 on:** July 14, 2005, 09:30:04 PM »

IMHO it was Don Rumsfield in the green room with the candlestick. He must resign now!

Donzo · « **Reply #208 on:** July 14, 2005, 11:11:47 PM »

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Originally posted by FUNKED1
That's not relevant. Blowing a CIA agent's cover is wrong, period. If she did something wrong regarding her husband then she should be punished through the chain of command, not by some treacherous press leak.

Fact: She was not "under cover".
Fact: She recommended that her hubby go on the trip to Niger. There are document to prove this.

If this was "under cover" and "hush-hush", why did Mr. Wilson write an editorial about his trip?

This whole thing amazes me.
The Rove machine biatch-slapped the Dems twice and they can't take it.
Pathetic how people are grasping at anything negative against the current administration. It's as if what's in the media is the end-all truth to everything. Just like the National Guard docs Danny boy tried to sluff off as being "authentic".

Donzo · « **Reply #209 on:** July 14, 2005, 11:29:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
C'mon guys, I don't want a thread I started to get locked.

Any predictions on whether there will be an official response in the next couple days? Or will this die out?

It will die out.
Why?
Stage 1: "Rove has to resign"
Stage 2: "The President should fire Rove"
Stage 3: "Rove's position at the White House should be lowered"

This has been the progressing over the past couple of weeks.
The blood has disapated in the water....move along people, nothing to feed on here.
Oh wait...one last-ditched effort!!!!

Stage 4: Hillary - "Rove was responsible for the "Hot Coffee" mod for grand theft auto!"