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« Reply #135 on: July 12, 2005, 02:52:42 PM »
"There is no way of dealing with the Frenchman but to knock him down - to be civil to them is to be laughed at."


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« Reply #136 on: July 12, 2005, 03:01:39 PM »
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I prefer the .44 mag desert eagle that I have... I luv that gun... it gets soo much attention when I go to the range to shoot it... no prob gettin us back on topic... speakin of handguns why hasn't anybody said a beretta 9mm or a glock 9mm... the 9mm round is the most amazing bullet in the world ballistics anyways... it is small for the most part but ballistic wise has more knockdown than a .357 or a .38, not sure can't remember which I always get em backwards, somebody will correct me. But for the size, no bullet is better than a 9mm

for home defense I have a smith & wesson .410 revolver.. shoots 6  standard .410 shotgun shells and is a revolver... the thing is bigger than my desert eagle, we used to use em in south tx to shoot rattlesnakes

would like to shoot a barret .50 cal sniper rifle, I have a Weatherby .300 mag right now thats as close as I can get for the $$ hahaha

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« Reply #137 on: July 12, 2005, 04:05:10 PM »
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yep... thread was about best gun..   the brits and women chimed in about how frightened they were of firearms and then proved how banning them was a good thing because at worst... it only increased crime slightly and at best it..... well... it did nothing but disarm citizens who might never need to defend themselves anyway...
Well lazs, sorry if the thread wandered. I think I started it because when you guys talk about needing a gun for defence, my first question is - defence against what? Then someone said about carrying a gun ever since 911, and I pondered over how guns could have prevented 911, and how a gun might have protected me against the bombs in London last week. That is all.

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« Reply #138 on: July 12, 2005, 05:09:13 PM »
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lazs2
speakin of handguns why hasn't anybody said a beretta 9mm or a glock 9mm... the 9mm round is the most amazing bullet in the world ballistics anyways... it is small for the most part but ballistic wise has more knockdown than a .357 or a .38


A 380 yes, definitely not a 357.

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« Reply #139 on: July 12, 2005, 05:09:26 PM »
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Well lazs, sorry if the thread wandered. I think I started it because when you guys talk about needing a gun for defence, my first question is - defence against what? Then someone said about carrying a gun ever since 911, and I pondered over how guns could have prevented 911, and how a gun might have protected me against the bombs in London last week. That is all.




Beetle, I will only make one remark in response to your comments, since you would like to make all gun threads (regardless of specific points) to be your soapbox.  Actually, this isnt even my remark.  Just a quote.

"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"

Adolph Hitler, 1933


If thats the way you want to live, I respect that.  I just ask that you respect my choices as well, since we live in different countries with different laws and neither one of us has a snowball's chance in hell of imposing our rules on the other (even if we wanted to).

And as for my personal home defense picks.......

12 ga. pump shotgun in riot-gun format, 8 shell magazine, pistol grip, 18 in. barrel, loaded with 00 Buckshot; and a .357 Magnum loaded with Glaser tip rounds.

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« Reply #140 on: July 12, 2005, 05:14:31 PM »
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Well lazs, sorry if the thread wandered. I think I started it because when you guys talk about needing a gun for defence, my first question is - defence against what? Then someone said about carrying a gun ever since 911, and I pondered over how guns could have prevented 911, and how a gun might have protected me against the bombs in London last week. That is all.



Thats just plain silly beetle, who said that guns in private hands would stop those types of attacks?

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« Reply #141 on: July 12, 2005, 07:44:40 PM »
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"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"

Adolph Hitler, 1933


You are aware tha quote is a complete fabrication, aren't you?

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« Reply #142 on: July 12, 2005, 07:57:30 PM »
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You are aware tha quote is a complete fabrication, aren't you?


It's true, it's true! I saw it on the internet.
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« Reply #143 on: July 12, 2005, 08:31:01 PM »
Glock 27 in 40 S&W with night sights. I've been thinking about an 18 inch barrel pump 12ga. recently. Flechett rounds in the midsection will incapacitate the diaphram and bleed the perp out rapidly.

How come if you read world history, roughly the last 90 years, we gun nutty cowboy neaderthals have saved the butts of our esteemed, highly civllized, educated and cultured allies over and over again from the intercen pissing matches they have managed to place them selves in. But for some reason after each time we got sucked into it, saved the day, provided funds, materials, and manpower for reconstruction, we get derided for the very cultural traits that saved their collective butts?

But who cares? By 2050 we may not have enough of us WASP cowboys left to do it again when Islam breeds the EU out of existance, and Mexico City's northern suburbs are in Toronto.

Beet, take potshots at us while time remains in our lives. I worry our collective cultures will be gone and our age forgotten on a different tide of humanity...........
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.

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« Reply #144 on: July 12, 2005, 09:43:04 PM »
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You are aware tha quote is a complete fabrication, aren't you?




Ive seen people say it is, and I've seen people swear it isnt.  How should I know?  I wasnt born yet in 1933.  The info you and Beetle keep firing back and forth at each other has just as much credibility.  Someone said it so it must be true.  Provide me with proof (other than you say so) that its an absolute fabrication, and I'll gladly delete it from my post.  Until then, it has as much backing as it does detraction.  But I appreciate your pointing it out without quoting me stats as to how often someone has posted it in various BBS around the internet.

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« Reply #145 on: July 12, 2005, 09:45:46 PM »
I did get your email on this Mauser, and thanks.  Unfortunately I cant get my email to send right now so I couldnt reply.  If you have links, feel free to email them.  I'm signed on with several different bulletin boards.

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« Reply #146 on: July 13, 2005, 02:20:27 AM »


Nuff said:D :lol

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« Reply #147 on: July 13, 2005, 03:14:02 AM »
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hey u frikn hoglegged HOLY Crusaders..go start another thread
hehe..you said it green:) my buddy has that same ruger revolver you have..he gots the longer barrel one too..he swears by them..both are 357..but he target shoots with 38 special alot...but heck..they hardly kick with regular 357 anyways..lol

i got a black powder revolver dragoon..loaded with 50 grains of powder in my locked bed room...thats were the saying light'em up came from..guess when you shoot close range they would catch on fire..hehe heck with a rail light..just light them up.hehe..its a little big to carry in public thou..lol,,i take it camping with me..i pack a tiny little astra cub 22 short in town

i hear s&w are nice revolvers...i love there new 500 s&w..what a monster..i know your lookin for somthing compact..so im sure its a little big to carry..magnum bfg are dang good..but too big to carry too,,.lol..little peace maker colt 45..charles daliy or uberti are not half bad either..there shorties are very easy to hide:)

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« Reply #148 on: July 13, 2005, 03:30:25 AM »
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Thats just plain silly beetle, who said that guns in private hands would stop those types of attacks?
It was pooface - a UK guy - talking about some crackpot he met. Poohface said
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lol, its the american way when i went to vegas i went to a shooting range, and some crackpot told me that he would constantly carry atleast two guns on him at all times since 9/11.
And I remember hearing in the news that sales of guns and/or ammo in the US had risen 70% in the immediate aftermath of 911. That tells me that a great many Americans cling to the perception that a firearm as the panacea to every danger that life might present.

I know you like your guns, and I know that carrying one makes you feel more manly, but few civilised countries outside of the US would like to adopt the US guns-4-all model. In 2004, I asked the following question on this BBS: "Would you like to see guns and gun ownership introduced to your country, guns to be made freely available at retail outlets, and for gun ownership by private citizens to be all but unrestricted, and guaranteed by contitutional right?" And guys from the following countries said NO.

    * Bermuda
    * France
    * England (and Wales)
    * Finland
    * Spain
    * Poland
    * The Netherlands
    * Italy
    * Iceland
    * Germany
    * New Zealand
    * Norway
    * Argentina
    * Australia
    * Belgium

It seems pretty clear to me that people in the rest of the world are not convinced by the American example, and based on that example do not want to see a US-style proliferation of privately held firearms. I think most people realise that such a policy would create far more problems than it would solve.

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« Reply #149 on: July 13, 2005, 05:49:50 AM »
At least we've come to the root of beets thinking.  A handful of people on a video game bulletin board now constitute "the rest of the world".

I wonder if I can get elected King?