Author Topic: Best Self-Defense Firearm (Read 4028 times)

storch · « **Reply #150 on:** July 13, 2005, 06:34:29 AM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
At least we've come to the root of beets thinking. A handful of people on a video game bulletin board now constitute "the rest of the world".

I wonder if I can get elected King?

didn't you guys in boston kick out the last king we had? they did it with personal firearms too IIRC.

lazs2 · « **Reply #151 on:** July 13, 2005, 08:14:49 AM »

Nice list beet.. I thought NZ still had pretty easy gun ownership?

seems like it's not much of a list in any case... no important countries on it for instance.

Do you have fire insurance? do you ever think you will have a fire in your home? It is unlikely in the extreme sooo... haveing the insurance could be construed as paranoid.... same for, and maybe a better analodgy... smoke alarms or fire extinguishers. does haveing fire insurance and smoke alarms mean that you are living in fear every single day of your life?

iceman... I reload and shoot a lot... the desert eagle is a not so accurate gun that destroys brass and works only with certain loads. You were kidding about the 9mm tho right? It is a very poor round for the type of action (weight and complexity) that is required to shoot it.... not worth the trouble... certainly nothing like a .357

SMIDSY · « **Reply #152 on:** July 13, 2005, 08:36:55 AM »

for a concieled firearm you should probably go with a walter PPK. compact, enuf firepower for what you need and best of all: no need to **** it before pulling the trigger like on the colt 1911. many might say that you need "nockdown power" but i am a fan of accuracy. anyone who you would need to defend yourself against will be taken down by a 9mm pistol round unless it is someone hopped up on PCP or somethin, in that case you could fire a friggin nepolion with tripple canister into him and it wouldnt stop him. but if that happens, shoot to kill (head shot).

lazs2 · « **Reply #153 on:** July 13, 2005, 08:44:20 AM »

I have a PPK and it is fairly accurate.. not as accurate as a J frame smith tho.

It is fairly light but not as light as a J frame smith in scandium..

It is fairly powerful but not near as powerful as a J frame smith in .357 tho.

It is fairly easy to get into operation if the safety isn't on and you have rememebered to put one in the spout but... not near as easy as a shrouded hammer J frame smith.

it can probly be fired from the pocket once but the J frame shrouded hammer can be fired several or 5 times from inside the pocket...

it is fairly smooth with not too many things sticking out to catch on clothing for that embarassing was of clothes and gun when all you want is gun but... the J frame smith is very smooth with no chance of that.

lazs

SarinGas · « **Reply #154 on:** July 13, 2005, 11:39:07 AM »

Wow nice canoe paddle!

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Originally posted by Skydancer

Nuff said:D

hyena426 · « **Reply #155 on:** July 13, 2005, 12:56:00 PM »

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And I remember hearing in the news that sales of guns and/or ammo in the US had risen 70% in the immediate aftermath of 911.

beet..i dont think it has that much to do with 9-11.{but you never know..fear does cause people to think}..i think its mostly because of the preban laws going away and gun prices dropping really low..auto's have never been cheaper...before the preban..a regular romanian ak-47 would cost you about 700 bucks..after the preban they dropped to 250$..big drop and good reason for the increase of gun buyers..they have never been cheaper in the us..thats better than 50% off guns that were out of touch from most people..most guns that sell are 200 dollar guns..now that some 700 or 800 dollar guns are in that range..people are scooping them up because they never had a chance to buy them befoore..i would say that would be the best reason for the gun increse...if a car company came out and said..heck think we will sell are 12,000 dollar cars for 6 or 5,000 brand new..dont ya think there would be a big increase in there sales?

same increase in gun sales happend in 1994 ..because of the brady gun bill passing..and big increase after the bill ran out..lol

mauser · « **Reply #156 on:** July 13, 2005, 01:36:16 PM »

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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
I did get your email on this Mauser, and thanks. Unfortunately I cant get my email to send right now so I couldnt reply. If you have links, feel free to email them. I'm signed on with several different bulletin boards.

Hi SA2,
I'll post them here in case anyone wants to research their questions elsewhere, or just hang with others with similar interests. To anyone who's looking for another place to discuss firearms for self-defense, for a hobby, for hunting The High Road is a great general place to visit. The owner of the board, Oleg Volk is an avid photographer and a self-defense advocate:

http://www.olegvolk.net
http://www.a-human-right.com

THR is well moderated, people are encouraged to "take the high road" when discussing things and those on the other side of the fence are encouraged to discuss there also. So as long as you're willing to discuss topics instead of troll, or listen to the other side rather than love to hear the sound of your own voice, you should be fine. It's his house with his rules, just like this is HTC's house with their rules. I don't know him personally but I appreciate his work and the community there.

The Tactical Forums , is a dead serious place where "I heard it on the internets" doesn't fly at all. Their purpose is to provide a place where professionals (Law Enforcement, Military) can trade some types of information on a public forum. You can find ballistic gellatin results and recommended off-the shelf loads in the Terminal Effects forum. Search for posts by DocGKR and the caliber and/or loading you're interested in. However, there's more information there for police/military calibers like .45ACP, 9x19mm, or .38 Spl as opposed to other calibers. Searching for information before posting is strongly recommended.

mauser

SMIDSY · « **Reply #157 on:** July 13, 2005, 02:09:01 PM »

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Originally posted by SarinGas
Wow nice canoe paddle!

i hope you are kidding, but just in case.
that is a cricket bat you silly sod. they are about the length of a baseball bat and a bit hevier.

GreenCloud · « **Reply #158 on:** July 13, 2005, 02:13:55 PM »

WHERE THE F ARE THE MODERATORS!!??
Isnt this a effing HIJACK!??

disgusting....nice job beetle..and btw you look like a fool....I like how you cant answer my questions..but have to quote some rule about self moderating..nice side step..BUT..when you try to moderate me with your htcs'rules"..you are guilty again..

AGAIN..get rid of any insurance you have..Your are so two faced I dont even laff at you anymore...Go stab your self now please,,,,virtually
Your arguments are so weak i think you are just joking

WHERE ARE THE POLICE!?????

beet1e · « **Reply #159 on:** July 13, 2005, 02:26:34 PM »

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Originally posted by GreenCloud
disgusting....nice job beetle..and btw you look like a fool....

ROFL! That is at least better than being a fool!

;)

g00b · « **Reply #160 on:** July 13, 2005, 02:42:05 PM »

Nice GeenCloud, call for the moderators then proceed with personal attacks.

Be carefull what you wish for...

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #161 on:** July 13, 2005, 02:51:06 PM »

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Originally posted by beet1e

I know you like your guns, and I know that carrying one makes you feel more manly, but few civilised countries outside of the US would like to adopt the US guns-4-all model. In 2004, I asked the following question on this BBS: "Would you like to see guns and gun ownership introduced to your country, guns to be made freely available at retail outlets, and for gun ownership by private citizens to be all but unrestricted, and guaranteed by contitutional right?" And guys from the following countries said NO.

* Bermuda
* France
* England (and Wales)
* Finland
* Spain
* Poland
* The Netherlands
* Italy
* Iceland
* Germany
* New Zealand
* Norway
* Argentina
* Australia
* Belgium

It seems pretty clear to me that people in the rest of the world are not convinced by the American example, and based on that example do not want to see a US-style proliferation of privately held firearms. I think most people realise that such a policy would create far more problems than it would solve.

I'll let my mother know that carrying a gun should make her feel more manly. According to a man in a country that wouldnt let him have one if he wanted it.

Oh and Beetle, when did we ever ask any one of those countries on your list to adopt American private gun-ownership standards? Never would be the right answer. We arent trying to force our views on anyone else, why do you insist on bashing ours?

Martlet · « **Reply #162 on:** July 13, 2005, 03:18:45 PM »

It's funny to see him include Poland in that list, though, after the persisting liberal argument that they are so insignificant they shouldn't be mentioned as part of the "Coalition of the Willing".

DrDea · « **Reply #163 on:** July 13, 2005, 03:24:56 PM »

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Ohh, and for the knucklehead advocating not shooting to kill... get real, a wounded perp is most likely to sue your arse into destitution as opposed to a dead perp. Remember the simple rule that the dead do not talk.

Exactly.If your gonna shoot someone shoot to kill.

beet1e · « **Reply #164 on:** July 13, 2005, 04:27:03 PM »

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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Oh and Beetle, when did we ever ask any one of those countries on your list to adopt American private gun-ownership standards? Never would be the right answer.

When did I ever say you had? Never would be the right answer.

Oh, and Martlet - my question was posed to those people outside the US. As far as you're concerned, that IS the rest of the world. Just thought I'd clear that up.

Author Topic: Best Self-Defense Firearm (Read 4028 times)

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