Author Topic: Poor Frame Rate (Read 1216 times)

Torvald · « **on:** July 15, 2005, 09:19:26 PM »

Need a little help here. I am getting single digit frame rates when fighting. I have set all my setting to minimums, terrian, water,, etc. But I have little success improving my FR. The best I have had are the low teens. Naturally this is when fighting the enemy. My system specs are as follows.

Alienware 3.2Ghz with 1 Gig of memory. I have a GeForce FX 5900 with the 6.6.9.3 Driver and 256 MB of video memory. I have a creative labs audigy 2 sound card with 5.12.1.324 driver. I am using the CH products Pro pedals, pro throttle and combatstick, all USB, not sure about the drivers, but they are not more than 6 months old. I have DSL, dont think I have ever updated the drivers for this.

So, gang, what can I do?

Regards

Torv

MaddogJoe · « **Reply #1 on:** July 16, 2005, 10:46:33 AM »

There are so many variables to this.....

First, on your computer you "should" be running good numbers, its better than mine and I run 50 most of the time. Make sure you have all your drivers up dated, except the video. The Nvida cards are picky as to which drivers to use. Check the boards as to which are best for your card.

Next, what else do you have running in the background while you have the game running? Lots of people have turned off alot of the services to get there machines running as clean as possible. Also under this heading would be virus and adware junk clogging up your computer. Be sure you are virus clean. This game uses the CPU alot, and if your computer has to spare cycles to run other things...viruses, programs, adware, and so on it will cause the games FR to suffer.

Next, run "pingplotter" a free program you can find by googling the net. It will run a pingplot to HTC servers. If, like a lot of others you are pinging through a bad Savvis nexus you will have trouble, but HTC is working to fix this, but you'll at least know were your trouble is.

One other thing you can try, is to run the game off-line and see if you are still having the same trouble. Granted you won't have the furballs and such, but get a few things smoking will have the same effect.

If this little bit of info helps, great! If it doesn't, then I'd say post a copy of your Dxdiag on the message boards here and let some of these guru's have at it

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 16, 2005, 10:01:52 PM »

First and foremost, optimize your system. CPU, video card, you can have the best there is and you'll still have crappy frame rates if your system has 30 processes running at startup. I know people with far better systems than mine that cant get half my frame rates.

http://www.tweakguides.com/

Go here and start reading. Optimize your OS. Get your computer running smooth.

Also, ditch that driver and download the 61.77 version from Nvidia's website. Or go to http://www.omegadrivers.net and download his latest (which I think is his version of the driver you have now). The "official" version of your driver is unstable with your video card (at least in the systems I've tested), and I have heard lots of other horror stories. Stable driver will help.

Once all that is done, use the tweakguides Geforce guide to set your card up properly. Settings in the card software can make a HUGE difference in frame rates, irregardless of your ingame settings.

Good luck.

bustr · « **Reply #3 on:** July 19, 2005, 02:10:03 PM »

What refresh rate are you running your monitor at, at the desktop? Are you at the default of 60Hz, or have you set it faster? I'm running my desktop in XP at 1024x768 @ 120Hz refresh. Low on the deck in furballs I'm 45-60 FPS. Up in the air I'm 65-120 FPS.

Overlag · « **Reply #4 on:** July 19, 2005, 05:13:39 PM »

i got the same issue...i think its a map issue really

last week i got a new system..... in sig... including a 7800gtx. Now for most people you will know the 7800gtx is the fastest gfx card out there by a VERY LARGE MARGIN

it can play most games at 2048 res, with AA and AF on max

last week, on my first go of AH with my new setup i was pegged at 75hz/75fps all night. which was great.

however today im at 10-20fps? Its them trees again though. As soon as the trees are out of view its fine.

nothing has changed since last week other than this new map.

FS2004 still is running at the same fps as last week which is over 100fps.
HL2 is running at 70-160fps like last week

my 3dmark 2005 score has gone from 7775 last week to 8800 this week due to tweaking

Krusty · « **Reply #5 on:** July 19, 2005, 06:23:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Overlag
i got the same issue...i think its a map issue really

last week i got a new system..... in sig... including a 7800gtx. Now for most people you will know the 7800gtx is the fastest gfx card out there by a VERY LARGE MARGIN

it can play most games at 2048 res, with AA and AF on max

last week, on my first go of AH with my new setup i was pegged at 75hz/75fps all night. which was great.

however today im at 10-20fps? Its them trees again though. As soon as the trees are out of view its fine.

nothing has changed since last week other than this new map.

FS2004 still is running at the same fps as last week which is over 100fps.
HL2 is running at 70-160fps like last week

my 3dmark 2005 score has gone from 7775 last week to 8800 this week due to tweaking

Your entire post (unedited) is proof that HTC needs to re-think their tree plan. The trees destroy otherwise perfect systems. They are not only a horrible tax on even the fastest systems, but they are way overscaled (at 200 to 250 feet tall, in-game) they are not that appealing, to boot!

Overlag · « **Reply #6 on:** July 19, 2005, 06:32:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Your entire post (unedited) is proof that HTC needs to re-think their tree plan. The trees destroy otherwise perfect systems. They are not only a horrible tax on even the fastest systems, but they are way overscaled (at 200 to 250 feet tall, in-game) they are not that appealing, to boot!

yup, AH trees look ugly and really need tweaking.

there size causes 2 massive problems

1: they are TOO big so more planes hit them (200 foot trees?!?!)

2: bigger objects = more taxing on systems.

Overall AHII needs some optimization, if it cant run on a A64 2400mhz (x2 cores 1mb 4800 speed) pc with a 7800gtx there is something fundamentaly wrong.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 19, 2005, 06:51:18 PM »

Just a silly question for you guys. Why is it the trees cause such a big frame rate hit on a powerhouse system like Overlag has, yet they dont bother my little Athlon XP/Geforce 5900XT?

Overlag · « **Reply #8 on:** July 19, 2005, 08:14:58 PM »

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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Just a silly question for you guys. Why is it the trees cause such a big frame rate hit on a powerhouse system like Overlag has, yet they dont bother my little Athlon XP/Geforce 5900XT?

i dunno my my 9700pro also had the issue. id tweak it all to be perfect 70hz solid, however trees pushed it below 20fps almost all the time

driving in tanks at 10fps is VERY VERY annoying:mad:

edit what sort of gfx settings are you using?

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 19, 2005, 08:18:43 PM »

If I may say, I've noticed quite a few folks with the newer 64 bit processors that have this problem. They have nice new systems that should be head and shoulders above what's sitting on my desk, gets scores on benchmarks that make mine look like a big paperweight, and yet once I log into AH I perform BETTER. And I cant tell you why, but this has come up before.

Overlag · « **Reply #10 on:** July 19, 2005, 08:25:41 PM »

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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
If I may say, I've noticed quite a few folks with the newer 64 bit processors that have this problem. They have nice new systems that should be head and shoulders above what's sitting on my desk, gets scores on benchmarks that make mine look like a big paperweight, and yet once I log into AH I perform BETTER. And I cant tell you why, but this has come up before.

nope, because my XP1700 based system cant even run AH @ my native TFT's resolution so that is NOT it

Schutt · « **Reply #11 on:** July 20, 2005, 07:05:21 AM »

Torvald, what resolution and texture settings are you using?

Also i think that some background tasks bog the system down, be it antivirus, firewall, malware, spyware, internet explorer, skype, instant messanger or whatever.

I have no framerate problem with trees and my system is way slower.

I have no idea which program it is but i could imagine some messaging, fw, antivirus or maybe some kind of winxp help, indexing, sceduling, update whatever program runs in background and seriously breaks the system.

For example some networking program might have to examine every udp package needing cpu power when ah is transfering information?

As i see it most of you say it ran great when trying with the new system and a few days later it doesnt run any good, something changed in the system meanwhile and that is the problem.

For example using outlook express opens up the instant messanger and that one stays in background all the time.

Windos trys indexing filesystems for fast search, maybe it tries to index the ah2 files because they get touched all the time it indexes them constantly while playing?

Antivirus with constant file check checks every file opend and bogs down the comp?

Omega drivers wont help in this case, as fast as they might be they only buy some frames if at all, as i understand is you have a quarter of the performance that you expect.

Maybe skuzzy has an idea how to debug the problem... maybe dump a thread list into a txt file with a hotkey? As soon as you jump out of ah2 the effect that is the problem will cease... so maybe you can put in a debug switch into ah and pull the info somewhere?

Can ah2 check how much cpu time it gets and how much cpu time is for system and other tasks? Those 3 values alone could give a hint if its real a ah2 problem or another task running, as i suspect it is?

Sorry if i sound to critical but i find it verry strange that it runs perfect on new installed system and 5 days later its bogged down.

You installed winxp sp2 between first ah2 test and the slow problems? Switched off all the stuff coming with sp2, like firewall, online update, office quick launch and others?

SkyWolf · « **Reply #12 on:** July 20, 2005, 07:07:02 AM »

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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
If I may say, I've noticed quite a few folks with the newer 64 bit processors that have this problem. They have nice new systems that should be head and shoulders above what's sitting on my desk, gets scores on benchmarks that make mine look like a big paperweight, and yet once I log into AH I perform BETTER. And I cant tell you why, but this has come up before.

My system is an A64 3500 with 1 MB Ram and a 6800GT. My FPS never go below 40 even when I'm flying right down in the trees or in a smokey, low alt furball from hell. Sliders are 3/4 of the way to the left, textures 1024 and preloaded. Only running 1024x768 though as I need a new monitor.

Woof

Overlag · « **Reply #13 on:** July 20, 2005, 08:13:41 AM »

if i closedown bonic/seti at home my 2x cpus sit at 0% forever i only have 20 proccesses open, and all other games have shown a improvement after tweaking the proccesses down, however AH is still the same.......awful

Overlag · « **Reply #14 on:** July 20, 2005, 08:32:34 AM »

i set max performance on all sliders and i still dip below 40fps sometimes!?!

silly silly......