What a pile of rubbish

[Wilbus]

LOL Ghosth nice reply

Thrila, been day-dreaming again?

And thanks slapshot, was kind of fun actually

Big B, i didn't write this to attack you or anything but more as a proof to say that pilots in AH, just as in R/L have a tendency to overestimate alot of things. I think my post quite clearly shows that you overestimated ALOT of things when it came to this HO. The way it is, but as a rule, if it's not on film and clearly shows what happend/went wrong. It may very well be considered a whine.

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by Lye-El
The P47N will take more than one hit from an Osti. I Don't recall that happening on the other P47 types.

I'm the qunitessential Osti queen, I've killed thousands of planes with Ostwind literally, I've never once seen any fighter take more than 1 hit, inlcuding the new P47N.

Zazen

[straffo]

Originally posted by thrila
What??!  Wilbuz told me i had to sleep with him!

hahemm ... you're confused , you are speaking of the check six drill

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Zazen13
The Lgay7 is very, very tough, compound that by it's 'teenie weenie' (pun intended) size and it's one of the harder planes to knock down. I fly the Typhoon alot and the lgay7 takes more 20mm Hizooka rounds to kill of any fighter including the F6F and P47 which were supposed to be famous for durability under fire. I believe there is an error in the Lgay7 with regard to it's 'hitpoints' or whatever term is used to describe its ability to sustain hits.

Zazen

You might want to adjust your convergence to make sure you're hitting the La7 at the convergence point.  The La7 is not that tough and you certainly do not need cannons to take one down.

Last night I got jumped by two La7s while I was returning to base.  It took only 3 bursts of my .50s to take them both down.  I started the fight with slightly over 500 rounds.  The first La7 took a 2 second burst to his engine at 600 yards which knocked the engine out.   The next 2 second burst caught him slightly behind the cockpit at 400 yards which removed the tail from the rest of his plane.  The next La7 only took a 2 second burst in the wing root at about 300 yards which promptly removed his wing from his plane, causing catastrophic loss of lift to his port side.  When I finally touched down, I had slightly over 350 rounds.  

The F6F and the P-47 on average take more rounds to take out than the La7 and at least for me, I always use my cannons with my mgs to take them out because they just seem to be a .50 cal sponge and soak up the damage.  That's why I always try and aim for the cockpit/wingroot area to get a single burst kill on them.



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[lasersailor184]

If he's going as fast as you are, your bullets will converge on him at twice your convergance distance.

So open up from further out and aim a little low.

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by Big G
600 head on with an La7, I'm in a nikki

I stopped reading after that.

[wetrat]

solution: fly a G10 with 30mm's. If a fighter doesn't go down when you hit it, then you have a legitimate whine.

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
You might want to adjust your convergence to make sure you're hitting the La7 at the convergence point.  The La7 is not that tough and you certainly do not need cannons to take one down.

Last night I got jumped by two La7s while I was returning to base.  It took only 3 bursts of my .50s to take them both down.  I started the fight with slightly over 500 rounds.  The first La7 took a 2 second burst to his engine at 600 yards which knocked the engine out.   The next 2 second burst caught him slightly behind the cockpit at 400 yards which removed the tail from the rest of his plane.  The next La7 only took a 2 second burst in the wing root at about 300 yards which promptly removed his wing from his plane, causing catastrophic loss of lift to his port side.  When I finally touched down, I had slightly over 350 rounds.  

The F6F and the P-47 on average take more rounds to take out than the La7 and at least for me, I always use my cannons with my mgs to take them out because they just seem to be a .50 cal sponge and soak up the damage.  That's why I always try and aim for the cockpit/wingroot area to get a single burst kill on them.



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Ummm, maybe, but I've probably killed 3,000 Lgay's. I go waaaaaaaay out of my way to kill lgay7's. Overall they seem to take alot more damage than any other fighter, so convergence variance should not be an issue. This means they either really do take more damage or they are so small the wing mounted guns I use are only hitting one bank at a time *whereas your nose mounted guns are all hitting). But, if this were an issue with just one bank of guns hitting I would notice the appearance of greater damage absorbtion with other small planes such as the 109, I do not, just the Lgay7.

Of course this is all very subjective, I would jsut ask that HTC look into the Lgay7's durability ratings or whatever they call it and make sure they are correct for a generally poorly made, mostly wooden plane. Other wooden planes sure don't take near the damage the Lgay7 does, it's comparable to the P47 and F6F which were all metal and designed to be extremely durable, Lgay7 was designed to be a dispoable 'pocket rocket'.

Zazen

[A_Clown]

Oh yea, I really miss all this.............


Can't you just taste the sarcasm?

[Grizzly]

I don't know what happened, but a good possibility is net lag. Your front end scores hits, but this gets lost in the net traffic and the other guy's computer doesn't get the message. I've shot bogies with no apparent affect only to have them pop a minute later... or not at all.

[Lye-El]

Originally posted by Zazen13
I'm the qunitessential Osti queen, I've killed thousands of planes with Ostwind literally, I've never once seen any fighter take more than 1 hit, inlcuding the new P47N.

Zazen

Yes, I know. I don't have thousands, but hundreds in an Ostwind. I have had IL2 take up to three hits and a P47N take two. The first one set it on fire but didn't kill it. It came around for another pass and died that time.

I was going to check my kill stats to make sure but everything is coming up zeros. So that part of the BBS isn't working or I'm lying and have killed anything in anything.

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by Grizzly
I don't know what happened, but a good possibility is net lag. Your front end scores hits, but this gets lost in the net traffic and the other guy's computer doesn't get the message. I've shot bogies with no apparent affect only to have them pop a minute later... or not at all.

Setting it on fire = kill. The Il2 is not a fighter, it's a bomber really, almost all bombers can take multiple hits, mossies, a20s, navy buffs like TBM etc.

Zazen

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Zazen13
Ummm, maybe, but I've probably killed 3,000 Lgay's. I go waaaaaaaay out of my way to kill lgay7's. Overall they seem to take alot more damage than any other fighter, so convergence variance should not be an issue. This means they either really do take more damage or they are so small the wing mounted guns I use are only hitting one bank at a time *whereas your nose mounted guns are all hitting). But, if this were an issue with just one bank of guns hitting I would notice the appearance of greater damage absorbtion with other small planes such as the 109, I do not, just the Lgay7.

Of course this is all very subjective, I would jsut ask that HTC look into the Lgay7's durability ratings or whatever they call it and make sure they are correct for a generally poorly made, mostly wooden plane. Other wooden planes sure don't take near the damage the Lgay7 does, it's comparable to the P47 and F6F which were all metal and designed to be extremely durable, Lgay7 was designed to be a dispoable 'pocket rocket'.

Zazen

*shrug* I guess I must be doing something right with my shooting or I've got the super secret explosive tipped .50 cal ammo.

But I'm sure if you were to hit a La7 at the convergence points for your 20mm, the La7 wouldn't be flying afterwards.


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