Illegal To Smoke In Your Own Car?

[lazs2]

wow.... the naaaanny state being furthered by..... a democrat????  

who'd a thunk??

I bet you guys voting for democrats never sighned on for this didya?

Point is, in the long run... any democrat you vote for will work his/her butt off to take more and more personal freedoms away from you for the rest of his/her term(s) in office..

If they don't come up with this silliness on their own... they will lockstep vote with whatever girl or girly man fellow democrat that does come up with it...

lazs

[Boroda]

Originally posted by ASTAC
I'd go to jail...then tell the Judge to f off! I smoke and it is not distracting..of all the stupid things that cause accidents, I bet smoking is let than one tenth of one percent.

No stupid law would ever keep me from smoking in my car.

I have a friend who had an accident: the last thing he remembers was that he took a cigarette lighter from it's socket and then he woke up from coma 3 months later in a reanimation chamber.

That's why I always offer to light a cigarette for a driver when I am on a right seat.

I am a smoker, and I think that any smoking restrictions are a violation of my rights.

[lazs2]

although I no longer smoke... I would have to agree with boroda for the most part on this... So far as buildings paid for by the public... say a courthouse... the government has the right to forbid smokeing..

In private owned buildings.. it should be the choice of the owner... all he should need to do is post a huge sign that states that "this is a smokeing area".   In your car?  no ones bussines... if it can be proven that you caused a wreck because you were lighting a cig.... you should be prossecuted.

It's all really simple stuff... common sense and all that.

lazs

[A_Clown]

Tuning the radio is JUST as distracting as ashing a but or retreiving a lighter, but there is no political action to have all car stereos removed.........

I drove tow trucks for years, and in several different states. I have responded to thousands of collisions, can't recall a single one that was caused by a smoker not paying attention to the road. IMO this is a BS idea, designed to punish smokers, and generate money. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't even smoke cigarettes, but I feel this is just BS, plain and simple.

[indy007]

Originally posted by Hangtime
#1 cause of distracted while driving.. women. Yapping away at yah while inside the damn car.. or walking in view of a public road with a nice bellybutton and a great luggage rack.

In Tampa they banned girls from wearing t-back bikinis while operating hot dog stands on the way to the beaches. It was causing too many accidents.

[BUG_EAF322]

How can u get a ticket for lighten a cigarette while it isnt forbidden to have a lighter in ur car.

Not to mention an ashtray.

Cant he make a case about that.

[Mustaine]

Originally posted by A_Clown
Tuning the radio is JUST as distracting as ashing a but or retreiving a lighter, but there is no political action to have all car stereos removed.........
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no doubt.

i "channel surf" in my car, no CD player... and i can say i have gotten distracted changing stations.


i see people all the time playing with radios / phones / whatever being TONS more dnagerous than someone casually smokin a grit.

[Suave]

If the government profits from crime, the government will find a way to find more criminals.

There was a great big country with an economy based on prison labor, can't think of the countries name at the moment.. socialist something.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Suave
If the government profits from crime, the government will find a way to find more criminals.

"Government punishes for stealing only because it doesn't want competition" - I don't remember who said it

Originally posted by Suave
There was a great big country with an economy based on prison labor, can't think of the countries name at the moment.. socialist something.

If you mean USSR - it never relied on prison labour. It relied on devoted enthusiasts. BTW, prisoners who worked on vital projects like White Sea - Baltic channel got released after they finished a job.

On-topic: it wasn't forbidden to smoke in Moscow metro  (underground, subway) until 1960s - everyone understood that it's inappropriate and refrained from smoking.

I understand the feelings of the people who don't smoke, I spent 12 hours in IL-62 when I was 16 and a person next to me was smoking all the time, so I almost suffocated. I started to smoke in 1991 during a "coup", when I was 100km away from Msk and got a little too nervous about a civil war about to begin. I was almost 19. Still I always ask if I can smoke when I ride a cab - don't want to make others feel bad. I usually throw away a cigarette if a driver says he doesn't mind but he quited smoking now.

But I hate general attitude towards smokers: me and my friend go to a coffee-shop, take a seat at a hall for smokers, make an order and my friend takes out his pipe. In 2 minutes, he didn't have a time to light it, a waitress comes and says that a lady at the table 10 meters from us doesn't want him to smoke a pipe. After a fast and quite polite discussion (we adviced that lady to STFU [in a polite Muscovite way] and move to a hall for non-smokers) we simply went away before receiving our order and paying. It's stupid. And it's a tolerant barbarian country, and it's cosmopolitan capital city of "40 languages"...

[Suave]

Yes the whole world knows what a wonderfull place the USSR was.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Suave
Yes the whole world knows what a wonderfull place the USSR was.

I don't care about the "whole world" - I have some personal experience, and my relatives suffered in the 1930s, but it wasn't their prison labour that helped my nation(s) to survive, it was their enthusiasm and devotion. I hope this topic is closed and we'll refrain from hijacking this interesting and educating thread. If you want to discuss USSR - open your own thread please. I'll not alswer your hallucinations "that everyone knows" here any more.

[Fishu]

Originally posted by Boroda
I am a smoker, and I think that any smoking restrictions are a violation of my rights.

What about the rights of the non smokers?
There are places where restrictions are in place.
Mainly in public transportation and public buildings.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Fishu
What about the rights of the non smokers?
There are places where restrictions are in place.
Mainly in public transportation and public buildings.

In public transpotration - non-smokers rights are secured, in trains you can smoke only in compartments next to edges of the car, after restroom and next to a door between cars.

In public buildings there have to be some specially arranged places where people are allowed to smoke. Every 100 meters or so. As I said above - I don't want to bother anyone, I want to suck a cigarette and talk to some other smoker (smoking is a social activity).

I try to do my best to not disturb you - so I kindly expect same attitude from you, non smokers. Sorry.

[ASTAC]

The cities here that are trying to ban outdoor smoking are just insane...in an outdoor environmenmt there is enough "clean" air to dissipate the 2nd hand smoke rendering it harmless.

I don't think the government has the right to legislate smoking laws that require private owners to ban smoking. Bars, clubs, resturants etc. Alot of people smoke while waiting for food and after they eat and should be allowed to without having to go outside. I don't have a problem with bans in public buildings and transportation. This is really get6ting out of hand.

Hell because of the Nanny state finding (wrongfully) that tobacco copmanies were liable for a few people's lung cancer, we already have to pay anwhere from 3.80 to 6.00 a pack (depending where you live). Isn't that punishment enough for our filthy habit?

[Gh0stFT]

That aside..non-smoker can again LOL about such laws.