Author Topic: Illegal To Smoke In Your Own Car? (Read 1323 times)

Boroda · « **Reply #30 on:** July 29, 2005, 07:29:43 PM »

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Originally posted by ASTAC
Hell because of the Nanny state finding (wrongfully) that tobacco copmanies were liable for a few people's lung cancer, we already have to pay anwhere from 3.80 to 6.00 a pack (depending where you live). Isn't that punishment enough for our filthy habit?

3.80 to 6.00?!?!

Fascists!

Here I pay 14 rubles ($1=28rubles) for a pack of multifilter "XXI Century" from Rostov-on-Don. A cheapest pack of "Prima" is 3 or 4 rubles, I don't remember, a traditional 25-pack of "Belomorkanal" papirosy is 4.50 in a tobacco-store near my subway station. Good filtered cigarettes start from 8 rubles per 20-pack (Apollo-Soyuz soft-pack).

SirLoin · « **Reply #31 on:** July 29, 2005, 07:53:13 PM »

But what about the two toddlers strapped in the back seat while Mommy and Daddy are both puffing away(with the A/C going full blast and the window open a cracK?)

I say let the Cops have the power to hand out a ticket in that case...Just like leaving a dog/child in the car with the windows up on a hot day...

Should be a windows fully down law when smoking with anyone else in the car that isn't old enough to drive(iow..he has no choice but to be a passenger)

The infraction section should read"Failure To Be A Caring Parent"

Boroda · « **Reply #32 on:** July 29, 2005, 09:24:46 PM »

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Originally posted by SirLoin
But what about the two toddlers strapped in the back seat while Mommy and Daddy are both puffing away(with the A/C going full blast and the window open a cracK?)

I say let the Cops have the power to hand out a ticket in that case...Just like leaving a dog/child in the car with the windows up on a hot day...

Should be a windows fully down law when smoking with anyone else in the car that isn't old enough to drive(iow..he has no choice but to be a passenger)

The infraction section should read"Failure To Be A Caring Parent"

Agreed completely. Exposing kids to smoke must be punished. I mean - punished, not just telling them that they do a wrong thing.

Just like punishment for anyone who poures a glass of liquor for a kid.

RTSigma · « **Reply #33 on:** July 30, 2005, 01:30:52 AM »

To be honest, this law is BS, but I personally can't stand smokers.

I work in a restaurant where I don't have a choice to stay in the non-smoking section. I've smoked probably 5 cigarettes since I was 18 and haven't lit one up in over a year (I get craving because of my situation, explained later). I have to suffer through smoke with my asthma and I can't stand it. In Illinois practically anywhere you can smoke, but its not fair to the non-smokers. Sure, I can walk away, but then where am I to go when there are smokers blocking my way? I have slight addictions and a bad cough from second-hand smoke and its ridiculous.

This propsed law though itself is preposterous, its a moving vehicle and unless there are under age kids in the car, let people smoke.

ASTAC · « **Reply #34 on:** July 30, 2005, 08:23:40 AM »

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Originally posted by Boroda

(Apollo-Soyuz soft-pack).

They named smokes after a space mission?

lazs2 · « **Reply #35 on:** July 30, 2005, 08:52:38 AM »

so how many of you guys noticed the huge decrease in the price of your health insurance now that the tobaco companies have been sued and all the people are quiting smoking or cutting down?

Bout like the huge dro[ in medical and car insurance when the ladies made us all wear seatbelts or... how bout them helmets? the drop in insurance costs was.... well .. you know..

lazs

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #36 on:** July 30, 2005, 10:12:23 AM »

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If we could just take humans out of all these human interactions.

That was the ultimate goal of communism, and the only situation where it could work.

It's no wonder the leftists here in the USA are trying topush the same thing.

Hangtime · « **Reply #37 on:** July 30, 2005, 10:19:21 AM »

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Originally posted by ASTAC
They named smokes after a space mission?

I especially like how they identify them by caliber.

I wonder if they have armor piercing...?

rpm · « **Reply #38 on:** July 30, 2005, 11:31:05 AM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
I wonder if they have armor piercing...?

You mean non-filter.

Xargos · « **Reply #39 on:** July 30, 2005, 12:26:46 PM »

Boroda, Since you miss the old U.S.S.R. so much you ought to move to America because we are the new U.S.S.R....lol

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #40 on:** July 30, 2005, 01:44:43 PM »

O question who is more expensive a non smoker or a smoker.

Smoker might get terrible desease dies younger untill that time he invested about 3-4 euro a day because of the extra tax. When he dies young it doesnt cost much anymore.

The non smoker however does live longer in the end needs extra (medical)care.

And in the end when our average age gets higher the gouvernment will decide we have to work longer. Because the will try every way to screw u.

just a tought

live and let live

Boroda · « **Reply #41 on:** July 30, 2005, 08:19:32 PM »

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Originally posted by ASTAC
They named smokes after a space mission?

Yes, in 1975, and it was a best brand in USSR, 1.50 rubles per pack it was made by Phillip Morris. 1975 was a year when Pepsi, Phillip Morris and other Western "consumer brands" appeared in USSR. Non-filtered Prima was something like 0.2, Java filtered 0.4, expensive Kosmos or Leningrad filtered 0.7, cheapest hay-filled Verhovina was 0.06, Pamir (a beggar in the mountains) - 0.13 at that time IIRC. Later, by 1980 Olympics we had Marlboro and Chestrfield for 1.50 per pack. Average salary was maybe less then 200 rubles monthly in 1980.

Now Apollo-Soyuz is a good inexpensive brand, 8-12 rubles. At least this cigarettes didn't get awfull after last 12 years.

Boroda · « **Reply #42 on:** July 30, 2005, 08:27:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
I especially like how they identify them by caliber.

I wonder if they have armor piercing...?

Armour piercing were Cubal "Ligeros" or "Monte Cristo" non-filtered.

That stuff was so strong!

In the glorious days of "humanitarian aid" (1992-93) I smoked French "Galouises Caporal" in soft packs. Was not as strong as a stuff from Cuba but still repelled most of the people who wanted to "borrow" a cigarette from me, at least after they tried that thermonuclear stuff once

Unfortunately now we don't have Cuban cigarettes any more, the only brand sold here is quite good but too expensive, 50 rubles per pack, 3 times more then my "XXI Century medium".

Lizking · « **Reply #43 on:** July 30, 2005, 08:58:47 PM »

Using that number, it means a dollar is worth about 16 rubles. Gasoline should be abut 32 rubles per gallon, a six pack of beer 96 rubles, and a loaf of bread about 16 rubles. Does that hold true?

Boroda · « **Reply #44 on:** July 30, 2005, 09:14:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Lizking
Using that number, it means a dollar is worth about 16 rubles. Gasoline should be abut 32 rubles per gallon, a six pack of beer 96 rubles, and a loaf of bread about 16 rubles. Does that hold true?

Lizking, it's funny, but estimated "real" value of a dollar is around 16 rubles! Now it's 28, if ruble will get more expensive it will mean the end of our so-called "economics".

Gas is around 15 rubles per litre, means 60 rubles per gallon. Two times more. Six pack is 90-120 rubles depends on a brand. Loaf of bread - a standard 400g wheat white bread or 800g brick of rye black bread is 9-12 rubles.

Compare it to Soviet prices: 0.5 beer = 50-61 kopeykas, bread - 13-25 kopeykas, subway entrance or bus/trolley/tram (since 1985) - 5 kopeykas (13 rubles now).

My official salary in Academy of Science is 2000 rubles monthly now. It's not enough even to comfortably starve. Average salary in Msk is 10-15K rubles. I can make 10K sleeping for 8 hours 5 days a week as a "guard" anywhere. Subway train driver gets 20-25K monthly, and they don't get enough people to fill all the jobs, they offer free education and all things.