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Offline flakbait

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My view on religion.
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2001, 05:34:00 AM »
Never been the God-fearing kinda guy. Stopped going to church when I was 12 because the priest was a dick. Back before then I'd take some Gi Joes to church and play with them while waiting for the preacher to shut his can and let us leave. Last time I had to go to church I was staying at my Aunt and Uncle's place. I was 14 then, had a portable tape player with Guns 'n' Roses in it I carried everywhere. My Aunt sprung the whole deal on me just after I got outa the crapper. "We're going to church, you better get dressed".....<jaw hits floor>

My two cousins and I went to the Bible-Thumper class for NitWits while the adults went and got blasted with the preacher. At least that's what I think happened; either that or they got brain-washed. <shrug> Matt gave me his spare Bible and told me not to blast G'n'R in the room. So I turned the volume down and used the wonderous ear-piece headphones. All I saw was the leader of this deal point at me. Some old bald guy. I popped one ear piece out and asked the proverbial "Huh? Had my music going and didn't hear you". At which point this ancient fart tried to confiscate my tape player. After a few minutes of discussing the matter he said I could keep it if I read a few passages. No problem!!

I whipped out the label from the tape case and proceeded to read of the Glorious lyrics from Axl Rose. Starting with Welcome to the Jungle, of course. I got about half way through Night Train when he finally got the hint and told me to wait outside. Not a problem!! I listened to my tape for about an hour before I saw the mindless masses going inside the Big Room. Naturally I got stuck next to some crusty old couple who worshipped the preacher's feet. On my other side was my Uncle, who knew too well of my hatred for church. See, we got into it once about the Bible. Him saying it was mostly right with a few goofs. Me saying it was a load of horse toejam that worked perfectly well as a fire starter. After that we agreed to disagree. He had his beliefs, I had mine; twisted beyond words, but I had 'em! He whispered that I could listen to either of my tapes as long as I kept the volume low.

So I waited out 2 hours of a preacher damning me to Hell listening to the screaming melody of Slash and his Les Paul guitar. Haven't been to church since, or my Aunt and Uncle's place either. The entire bible bit I don't like; this version, that version. I sum it up thusly: "Non gratum anun rodentum". Not worth a rat's ass. You believe what you want, I'll do the same, and we won't get into a real nasty fuss over the entire thing. My g/f back when I was 16 tried getting me into a church group. Ended that relationship real fast. Not because I didn't like her, but because I simply believe God is fictional. Made up by some wise-ass in need of a quick buck.

To each their own.


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Offline StSanta

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« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2001, 05:46:00 AM »
From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) :
Pagan \Pa"gan\, a. [L. paganus of or pertaining to the country, pagan. See Pagan, n.]
Of or pertaining to pagans; relating to the worship or the worshipers of false goods; heathen; idolatrous, as, pagan tribes or superstitions.

From WordNet (r) 1.6 :

pagan
adj : not acknowledging the God of Christianity and Judaism and Islam [syn: heathen, heathenish]
n : a person who does not acknowledge your God [syn: heathen, gentile, infidel]

(emphasis mine)

Someone lacking a belief in deities would be an atheist. Interestingly enough, there are some religious atheists. Certain buddhists lack a belief in gods.

But then again, dictionaries can only be trusted to a certain degree. The inaccuracy with which some define word slike evolution and atheism for instance are two examples. I do believe this definition of pagan is reasonably close to how it is currently used.
 
           And all the rites of pagan honor paid.   --Dryden.

Offline ElLobo

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« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2001, 04:59:00 AM »
I'm a pagan myself, although I do prefer to be called a Heathen as I am of northern european ancestry. I believe as most who call themselves pagan nowadays do, that the Universe is God, or Goddess if you prefer, and that each of us is a part of the Universe and therefore you and I are God. As you and I are gods and goddesses we are infinately powerful, after all we ARE the universe. Furthermore I and my fellow pagans were never kicked out of the Garden. We are still living in it although we treat it badly at times. All of your holidays are Pagan holidays. Ever hear of easter in the Bible. Of course you have although she was called Ashtaroth, you also may have heard her called Ishtar " They pronounced it Easter back then" Sunrise services? Who were they waiting for to come up back then? It was Ishtar or Ashtaroth she was called Venus Later and Innana before and much later Eostre by the Germanic tribes but she was the same Goddess.

Also this Easter as you reflect on the Dead and risen God, contemplate this. He is only the latest of a long line of Sacrificed Gods that include: Damuzi Tammuz Adonis Osiris Dionysus and Mithra. And as you drink the blood and eat the flesh at communion remember this. You are performing the Exact same ritual as the Greeks did in worshipping Dionysus, the god of the vine who was torn apart and eaten by his preistess's the maeneds.

My goddess is all around me is in the stars is in you and is in me Thou Art God, or Goddess. Drink Deep of the Waters of Life.

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Offline StSanta

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« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2001, 05:18:00 AM »
Just plain ol' deism with some flowery language

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