Might want to take a new look at ENY

[Rino]

I understand the need for ENY, but at times it seems truly
unbalanced.  For example, just left the arena with 150 knights,
89 rooks and about 57 bish.  ENY for Knights was at 49ish, but
the rooks had no restrictions at all.

[SuperDud]

Just go to rook or bish then.

[Rino]

Not really interested in leaving for temporary inbalance.  The
ENY thing did it's job for me anyway, I logged off.  I understand
why the ENY was so high for the Knights, just wondered how the
Rooks managed to have 50% more players than the Bish, yet no
ENY restriction at all.

     I'm not all that interested in the landgrab, and generally don't
fly or drive late war/perk vehicles.  Last night was a triple
whammy for non-grabbers though.  No aircraft after 1940, no GV
heavier than an M-8 and no AAA vehicles at all.

     Makes it difficult to compete, and not worth country jumping
for something that will only last a few hours at most.

[TrueKill]

LMAO why would rooks need the EMY thing? so whta that they out number the bish by 32 ppl but they are still outnumber by the nit by 61.

[ghi]

ENY doesn't work with this #s,
 i don't care if i'm getting vulched by horde in LA7s or LA5s, same chit,  i got ussed getting vulched,

[Lazerus]

I think the reason that this system was implemented was to encourage people to even out the teams and hopefully lessen the gangbanging that was rampant in the MA. If you want to fly a low nmy plane when the numbers are skewed, switch teams.

I personaly agree with you and don't country hop, but the philosophy behind the system is sound. No balancing measures would be much worse than what HT has in place.

IMO of course.

[Kev367th]

Originally posted by Lazerus
I think the reason that this system was implemented was to encourage people to even out the teams and hopefully lessen the gangbanging that was rampant in the MA. If you want to fly a low nmy plane when the numbers are skewed, switch teams.

I personaly agree with you and don't country hop, but the philosophy behind the system is sound. No balancing measures would be much worse than what HT has in place.

IMO of course.

Yup, anythings better than nothing.

I have seen 2 countries ENY'ed, but it seems to be very rare.

Maybe time to tweak the limits again, don't know about anyone else but my preference was the 'old' system where it started earlier but hit at a lesser rate.
Seems like on average the ENY'ed country has to have at 60+ players more before it even starts.
60 more of any plane is still a handfull.

So what do people prefer given that its here to stay
a) current
b) original i.e. starts earlier but you lose things at lower rate
c) somewhere between
d) new higher where kicks in later but you lose stuff very, very quickly

[Max]

Originally posted by SuperDud
Just go to rook or bish then.

That works if you're not affiliated with a one country based squad, such as The Damned Air Group (Knights)

DmdMax

[TheThang]

as long as eny dosnt get over 29 im happy . If you guys hadnt noticed i only fly 30+ eny planes =)

[Kev367th]

Originally posted by TheThang
as long as eny dosnt get over 29 im happy . If you guys hadnt noticed i only fly 30+ eny planes =)

We have 30+ ENY planes?
I thought they were Sopwith Camels

[GooseAW]

I have not seen ENY have ANY effect on country numbers! It's a silly penalty suffered by all who happen to be on the side with the most members. It's very frustrating at the extreme and pretty annoying in general.

IMHO, country jumpers will jump no matter what. Some to get to the side with the advantage, and others to get to the side with the best fites.

Loyalists and country based squads will stay where they are. Like the Damned, the will stay put as we have for nearly
14 years.

I really don't see where ENY has any value other then nixxing LAs, NIKIs, and few other very low ENY planes, I disagree with it totally.

Yes, if I was unattached I would jump to Bish for a night here and there to balance the fight a bit...(shudders at the thought)

Well, there's my $0.02

[WMLute]

here's a suggestion.  tie ENY restrictions to the number of players "In Flight" vs. logged on.

Last night, Knit's had 149 players online, with a ENY of 26 or so.
Rooks had 120 something, with an ENY of 6.7 ish.

BUT Knit's in flight were 101  vs. Rooks in flight at 100

Knit's had ONE more player in flight, but suffered from a MUCH higher Eny restriction.

Didn't make sense to me at all.

[Simaril]

Originally posted by Kev367th
Yup, anythings better than nothing.

I have seen 2 countries ENY'ed, but it seems to be very rare.

Maybe time to tweak the limits again, don't know about anyone else but my preference was the 'old' system where it started earlier but hit at a lesser rate.
Seems like on average the ENY'ed country has to have at 60+ players more before it even starts.
60 more of any plane is still a handfull.

So what do people prefer given that its here to stay
a) current
b) original i.e. starts earlier but you lose things at lower rate
c) somewhere between
d) new higher where kicks in later but you lose stuff very, very quickly

I strongly agree. I know the ENY thing is a pain, but there is MUCH more fun to be had when the sides are roughly even. AH seems to have troubel maintaining that rough parity of players, because each side seems to take turns getting swarmed.

ROUGH number balance is SO important to intermediate players, that it seems to me that it ought to be a priority for HTC. I dont like 30v5 hordes, adn generally avoid them like the boring plague they are. I'm not good enough for 5v30 defenses, so I dont last long enough to have fun when we're getting hammered. I've tried switching to the low side, but I cant survive the hordes. Porking is no fun to do, and buff hunting takes SO much time. Chasing porkers is futile, to my chagrin -- tehy either run like ninnies or auger.

[BigGun]

Well if the number imbalance was that great, the eny restriction obviously wasn't working to well at that time. I think idea was that people would switch countries, and I don't think most people do.

I think the whole "perk award" for that war winning thing keeps number imbalance to persist. Personnally I find it hard to believe people care much about perk points.

I guess it does help balance numbers to minor degree, as there are some that sign off because isn't fun to play.

[ghi]

Originally posted by Simaril
. I know the ENY thing is a pain, but there is MUCH more fun to be had when the sides are roughly even.

  Yep, but now we have  2 teams  having fun, and bish trying to survive