Nope. My post had to do with the meaning of Patriotism, and how one who does not support a war can be just as patriotic as one who does. It all has to do with their reasons. If a person's actions as a citizen are governed by a belief in their country, then whatever action such a person makes should have no bearing on their status as a patriot, so long as it is done with civility and responsibility. On the other hand, people who advocate or preach principles that are not based upon the foundations from which their country was built are not patriots.
This country came into being, because of protest, and the constitution protects a citizen's right to protest. While the vote is the main source for directing the interests of this nation(or so they say

), the ability to protest peacably is a valuable tool made available by the constitution for all citizens to use. There are many times where protests have brought issues forward to a vote, and since the vote is, more or less, the will of the people, it would appear to be the best place to determine whether an issue of protest is valid.
As you can see, it was a tangential thread at best, which is why I deleted it. But to reply to your post, I really can't say if these people are "USA hating leftist traitors", since they seem to be much too busy having it out with the political Right. Sort of the case of not seeing the forest for the trees, really. This is something that many groups/people are guilty of these days, both Left and Right. Sometimes, it's good to come up for air, so to speak, so you can see just where you are and what relevance and impact it's all had with your society in general.
[ 12-16-2001: Message edited by: leonid ]