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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1830 on: January 11, 2010, 03:17:10 PM »
Well, considering that first the B-29 was never used in the European theater...Germany surrendered in May of 45...the B-29 didn't see action until June of 44...about 11 months before the German surrender which effectively ended the war in Europe. Japan surrenderd in August of 45.

Considering military hostilities by Japan and Germany started in 1938...that's pretty late in the war.
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1831 on: January 11, 2010, 03:40:38 PM »
must agree with the above, usually 44-45 is considered late war.. 42-43 mid and 39/40-41 early
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1832 on: January 11, 2010, 03:58:07 PM »
Why would anyone want another U.S. very late war bomber when there are so many other useful planes that could be added?


More useful to who??

Why would anyone NOT want another U.S. very late war bomber?
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1833 on: January 11, 2010, 03:59:28 PM »

More useful to who??

Why would anyone NOT want another U.S. very late war bomber?

Because not everyone is in to the whole UBER 1337 late war planes
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1834 on: January 11, 2010, 04:00:28 PM »
I see "LW" as 44-45, but very late war as in the closing weeks of WWII.
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1835 on: January 11, 2010, 04:02:55 PM »
I see "LW" as 44-45, but very late war as in the closing weeks of WWII.
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1836 on: January 11, 2010, 04:17:22 PM »
Because not everyone is in to the whole UBER 1337 late war planes

Well said, no really.

But on the other hand there are those that are!

Whose wishes are more important??

I guess that would depend on who you asked, wouldn't it.
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1837 on: January 11, 2010, 04:54:53 PM »
There are fighters that can catch it, so that isn't the issue. The real problem is the the bombload and armament coulped WITH the speed. If all we were asking for was a faster lanc, I doubt there would be such a huge issue about it. But basicly what they want is a faster Ki67 carrying 20k of bombs.

To an extent...

The B-29 is a HIGH alt bomber, and extremly fast. We don't have very many planes that could match its speed at 35k. But for those that do, the 20mm tailgun is gonna say "hello" and knock you back into the tower right quick.

Absurdly high alt + High speed + 20mm Tail Gun + Astronomical bomb load = No matter how many damn perks it costs, I don't want it disrupting the gameplay...
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1838 on: January 11, 2010, 06:22:54 PM »
Wanna test that theory?

Sure, but to what part are you reffering?


To an extent...

The B-29 is a HIGH alt bomber, and extremly fast. We don't have very many planes that could match its speed at 35k. But for those that do, the 20mm tailgun is gonna say "hello" and knock you back into the tower right quick.

Absurdly high alt + High speed + 20mm Tail Gun + Astronomical bomb load = No matter how many damn perks it costs, I don't want it disrupting the gameplay...

Of course. After playing some more. I have come to realize that right now , a B-29 would be devestating to game play. I was just tired of people going :its to fast, we can't catch it." and "It flys to high, no one flys up there", which both are untrue. We have planes that can catch it, and some people DO fly up that high.
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1839 on: January 11, 2010, 06:26:07 PM »
The 234 being an easier kill than the 262. "or to a lesser extent" an easier kill.
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1841 on: January 11, 2010, 07:13:39 PM »
Yes, simply due to a lack of forward firing guns, length of time it takes to get upto full speed, and the vulnerability it has when landing and just after take off (even though all planes have this, the 262 is a smaller target and, at least when I've flown it, doesn't seem to wallow quite so much when slow).
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1842 on: January 11, 2010, 07:38:23 PM »
When I had the amt of perks to burn I always took off in a 234 on a semi-crowded base...usually when there were a few cons around...hit RATOs when I got off the runway and got speed as cons dove on me. Easy kills when they think you are the unwary pilot. Don't need forward firing guns, they'ed help me more, but I like the enjoyment of PM's asking how I killed them and how I am a cheater. Hell I even get guys say that I "cheerypick" them...

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1843 on: January 11, 2010, 08:41:20 PM »
Ive seen the posts, heard the stories, and watched the fighting. Here it is in a nutshell.......IT WAS USED IN WWII! It was used more than the 262, it was used more than the 163. Who in their right mind would sit there and say it does not deserve to be in the game? Just because one person thinks it would be unfair due to the defensive firepower, that should be why we ban it from its rightful spot? So what, try being in a Spitfire with a 262 sitting on a perch about to "escort you to the ground". What about the difference in firepower then? All the excuses I have heard are just that, excuses. Yeah it may be used alot in the beginning but it would fade to a normal level. Try taking a larger bomber like that on a quick bombing run, you would opt for the 17, or 24, or Lanc. Point is this, the people who play want it in, I wouldnt mind having a go at it. Do what others have suggested and perk it to where you cant just grab it and go. Instead of fighting it, try putting it in and figure out how to use it.
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1844 on: January 11, 2010, 08:55:18 PM »
Try taking a larger bomber like that on a quick bombing run, you would opt for the 17, or 24, or Lanc. Point is this, the people who play want it in, I wouldnt mind having a go at it. Do what others have suggested and perk it to where you cant just grab it and go. Instead of fighting it, try putting it in and figure out how to use it.

You would see more players opting to use the B-29 than any of the other bombers.  Why?  Bigger payload and it will get you there faster, regardless of the altitude.  It would pretty much render all other heavy bombers in game hanger queens.  Perking it won't help since there are a great deal of players (probably majority of the dedicated bomber pilots) that have so many bomber perks that they can take off in a B-29 (heavily perked like ME 262) and crash it on take off and reup another one until the cows come home and not make a serious dent in their perk points.


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