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Offline Jackal1

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« Reply #60 on: September 07, 2005, 09:24:53 PM »
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To all you superior types who look down on those with financial problems I hope your day comes sometime.  

In the eighties we were driven into bankruptcy to the tune of 55K by medical payments not covered by insurance and we found out who our friends were.
 


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« Reply #61 on: September 07, 2005, 10:04:02 PM »
Sparks good post.

I have just been there as well (actually still in it, but it's at least stable now, and am able to dig my way out. The only thing that saved me was owning a house where market values have taken a huge jump in the last few years).

It is a personally embarrassing and demoralizing situation to be in, and it is extremely hard to dig in and fight back. Often times it is the small hand that reaches out to us in an attempt to help that gives us the energy and desire to help ourselves.

We don't need much more than a little compassion and faith in our fellow human beings to get started again.

A while ago, someone reached out to me with a small hand, and I am getting back on my feet.

We need to care more about each other.

I guess that's all I have to say about that.

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RTR
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« Reply #62 on: September 08, 2005, 12:22:51 AM »
I went into business for myself 2 yrs ago. Last year I got nailed. I had been paying quarterlies but made much more than I had expected. Of course none of that is kicking around, and its unreal where it all goes, but being married with no kids, self employed I got reamed. I hate the tax system.

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« Reply #63 on: September 08, 2005, 12:30:56 AM »
All I can say is, I am truly humbled, and grateful, you are one great bunch of guys. If I tried all night I wouldn't be able to come up with the words that would express my how moved I am at the moment.

I would have been grateful simply for a sympathetic word or some sound counsel, but I have reaped twelve fold more than I expected!

I must tell you, when I told my wife, she said, "Wow, what a gracious gift!" and then thinking further reflected "I guess this means you're going to have to play more often" to which I replied "Well, it wouldn't be good stewardship otherwise..." ;)

I'll try to write some more tomorrow, I'm dog tired at the moment, but blessed indeed.

May the Lord bless you all as he has blessed me through you...

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« Reply #64 on: September 08, 2005, 01:05:08 AM »
Gentlemen, we have found the perfect defense against wife-ack. ;)
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« Reply #65 on: September 08, 2005, 08:26:56 AM »
Add another 3 months to the total - a donation from Sparks!

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« Reply #66 on: September 09, 2005, 01:50:52 AM »
Hi All,

Thank you for the support, and thank you for what you've done for me.

It's funny, but over the past few weeks I've seen the dual truths of " In the world you will have tribulation" AND "Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me All the days of my life" following on each others heels again and again. This has been yet another example.

Since Saturday night of last week, much of my time has been spent in prayer and visiting of one of the families of our church. They are a very young couple, newly-weds who have just had their first child.

A few days after they took their newborn son home, and just before dad was scheduled to go TDY for HALO training, his bilurubin levels shot through the roof, skyrocketing to 45, which brought on seizures. That evening I rushed to the hospital to meet with and pray for the parents, preparing for the worst, and praying for mercy. I read Psalm 61:1-4 with them, and prayed with them for a while, pleading with God to spare and heal this tiny child - to be merciful yet again. That prayer was indeed answered and since that time, his bilirubin levels returned to normal, he came off sedation, off the ventilator, and is now awake and alert. It was a real testimony to both those new parents, their own parents who had rushed up to be with them, and a great reminder to me as well. There is of course still great concern about how this might have affected little "Blue's" brain, but his recovery has been nothing less than miraculous.

I share that, not only because I'd appreciate it if you would pray for Blue (yep that's really his name, this is the south you know) but also because that kind of thing has happened more times than I can count over the past few months.

So thank you all for you part in being some of those rays of light that break when things seemed darkest.

Now, I must away to bed. I really only got up to change a diaper... Funny how the net beckons.
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« Reply #67 on: September 09, 2005, 08:42:35 AM »
I am neither a tax accountant, CPA, or a lawyer, but being liable for taxes unpaid seven years ago (1998) doesn't seem right!  My understanding was that the IRS was partially de-toothed due to activiites such as this during the last administration.  Certainly, as Jackel pointed out, sending letters will create confusion and misinformation among the ranks of the Government which can only be to your advantage.  I recommend inquiring within your congregation (or other congregations) for tax accountants who may be able to give you advice and help in this matter.  

I do not recommend blindly paying the IRS!  Requiring citizens to only keep three years of tax records, then penalizing them for taxes seven years ago is definately something to challenge!  Taxes are man made rules, they need have no reason or rhyme.  As such, there is probably a loophole.  The IRS knows the wealthy will give them a hard time and it will probably cost the Government $10K to get $8K in back taxes from them!

Just like dealing with any preditor, don't give the IRS any indication of fear or that you will make this easy!  To state an old cliche, everything in life is negotiable!  


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Malta

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« Reply #68 on: September 09, 2005, 10:00:57 AM »
Maverick just added another 3 months. That puts the total at one and a half years! Y'all are a great bunch of guys!

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« Reply #69 on: September 10, 2005, 03:52:00 PM »
Seagoon...my Brother.


How's it goe?... You shall reap what you sow....?


SEAGOON '08


Ya got my vote Andy...just run with it!!!


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Besides I was the 69th post...had to make it known,  Ohhh Noo don't go there dirty minds!!!!
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« Reply #70 on: September 10, 2005, 07:25:50 PM »
Me in Heaven?!?!?! I wouldn't know anyone there! :eek: :rolleyes:
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