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Offline Sixpence

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« Reply #75 on: September 20, 2005, 02:43:08 PM »
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You and your ilk just keep pushin'.

You'll eventually find out why the 2nd Amendment is in there.

Your seatbelt won't help you then.


Ahhh, the threat of a gun taking my right to vote away, I am not afraid
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« Reply #76 on: September 20, 2005, 02:50:01 PM »
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I don't get this "freedom" thing.  


  Of course you don`t because you have been busy giving your`s away.
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« Reply #77 on: September 20, 2005, 03:09:58 PM »
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Of course you don`t because you have been busy giving your`s away.
LOL, I was waiting for some smart arse to come up with that. You forget, there was a time when we didn't have seatbelts. A time when US cars were getting 6mpg. So I have been a passenger in a car with no belts, and a passenger wearing a belt. I couldn't see what "freedom" had been taken from me because of having to wear a belt - which I did anyway, long before the law was passed.

Now get back on that commode and take a bowl of All Bran in there with you to make the trip worthwhile. ;)
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« Reply #78 on: September 20, 2005, 03:33:24 PM »
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I couldn't see what "freedom" had been taken from me because of having to wear a belt  


Once again...of course you couldn`t see it. You were too busy giving it away.
When you choose not to have freedom of choice and give it away , you have to come up with some excuse for the nadless actions.

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Now get back on that commode and take a bowl of All Bran in there with you to make the trip worthwhile.


That wouldn`t be one of my favorite past times, but I would prefer it over having sparring matchs with women .
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« Reply #79 on: September 20, 2005, 04:43:40 PM »
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Once again...of course you couldn`t see it. You were too busy giving it away.
When you choose not to have freedom of choice and give it away , you have to come up with some excuse for the nadless actions.
Nope - the seatbelt situation here is much the same as it is in many US states. And no excuses - the law makes perfect sense.

Oh I forgot - you don't need All Bran, you have grits!
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« Reply #80 on: September 20, 2005, 04:47:40 PM »
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Ahhh, the threat of a gun taking my right to vote away, I am not afraid


If it comes to that it won't be votes that get taken.

You aren't my nanny. Get over it. Mind your own life, not mine.
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« Reply #81 on: September 20, 2005, 04:56:15 PM »
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the law makes perfect sense.
 


The very fact it is a "law" is what makes it absurd.

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Oh I forgot - you don't need All Bran, you have grits!


And you have your vegetable of choice to smack around .
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« Reply #82 on: September 20, 2005, 05:02:56 PM »
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If it comes to that it won't be votes that get taken.


Ok, i'll go hide now while I wait for the great seat belt revolution to start
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« Reply #83 on: September 20, 2005, 05:06:52 PM »
Like I said, just keep pushin' nanny.

The recent eminent domain fiasco and medical marijuana joke didn't go unnoticed.

The increase in Federal power that results of Katrina won't go unnoticed either.

There appears to be a mistaken impression in some quarters that the entire population is made up of nanny sheep.

It isn't.
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« Reply #84 on: September 20, 2005, 05:13:43 PM »
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There was an article last week in my local newspaper that was talking about a lady that got a seatbelt ticket because she was too fat to get the seatbelt around her, it wouldn't fit...


They make extensions. Dealerships carry them. They're free from Toyota, probably the rest too. They should come with a complimentary treadmill.
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« Reply #85 on: September 20, 2005, 05:18:25 PM »
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Like I said, just keep pushin' nanny.

What does nanny have to do with it? Like this darwin, I don't care that he killed himself, I am not his nanny, but if stupid acts like this are going to drive up my insurance and health care costs, I should have a say in that

The recent eminent domain fiasco and medical marijuana joke didn't go unnoticed.

The increase in Federal power that results of Katrina won't go unnoticed either.

There appears to be a mistaken impression in some quarters that the entire population is made up of nanny sheep.

It isn't.

That's fine, but to lump a state seat belt law with federal power increased because of katrina? Sorry, I don't buy that a state seat belt law is going to lead to increased federal power and a revolution
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« Reply #86 on: September 20, 2005, 05:21:52 PM »
How much have your rates gone down since seatbelt/helmet laws were passed?

They haven't even stayed the same... they went up.

You swallowed the hook so deep it's around your last rib.
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« Reply #87 on: September 20, 2005, 05:23:52 PM »
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How much have your rates gone down since seatbelt/helmet laws were passed?

They haven't even stayed the same... they went up.

You swallowed the hook so deep it's around your last rib.


Who is to say they wouldn't be higher?
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« Reply #88 on: September 20, 2005, 05:39:42 PM »
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The very fact it is a "law" is what makes it absurd.
The reason a law was needed was because there were many stupid/stubborn people who would not wear a seatbelt even where one was provided.

And please, remind me: What is it I can't do while driving my car wearing a seatbelt that I could do if I was not wearing one? I want to know what "freedom" I could look forward to by not wearing one. Then I might go out and buy one of those white shirts with a thick black diagonal stripe that looks like a seatbelt, and I'll wear it when I drive. :D

As for whether insurance premiums have risen/fallen, there are so many other factors affecting them - car performance (much higher than 30 years ago) inflation, theft...
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« Reply #89 on: September 20, 2005, 05:46:40 PM »
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And please, remind me: What is it I can't do while driving my car wearing a seatbelt that I could do if I was not wearing one? I want to know what "freedom" I could look forward to by not wearing one.  


  You could look forward to the most important freedom of all, that being freedom of choice.
  It would also free you up in case you needed to reach over into the passenger side to slap someone around. An out of hand female for example.
  It would give you much more flexibility to assume the bent over position that you seem to prefer above freedom.
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