Author Topic: depression (Read 3004 times)

Pooh21 · « **Reply #30 on:** September 21, 2005, 12:17:56 AM »

shut up you all suck

Mustaine · « **Reply #31 on:** September 21, 2005, 12:37:45 AM »

YO fubs, my life is MAJOR %^&*$# up right now too... (excuse the cartoon beetle baily cussing), but there is "hope"

you know i am cool with keeping things quiet about personal lives here since we have talked on yahoo / whatever, get yahoo messenger 7, and we'll go on vox for a bit some night and chat. you still got my handle, message me, and we'll hook up. hell with the new one you can leave me a "voice mail" lol.

sorry bro, you KNOW i wont go on AIM with you, becaus e i HATE to type. hell this alone took 10 minutes

~~i am OUT ALL weekend, but around the weeknights before then. look me up~~

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #32 on:** September 21, 2005, 12:39:50 AM »

My wife suffers from depression. Even with the Meds she goes through really bad periods of anxiety attacks that last for days and sometimes a couple of weeks where she will do nothing but lay in bed and sleep (when she can sleep.)and cry

She's been to several doctors and even went for inhouse treatment twice

Its tough to deal with....For everybody.
i know it has been on me.
Doctors have impressed me so little I went off on one telling one I thought they, and he in particular was nothing more then a glorified pharmacist.
Im still not convinced most of em arent.

Very frustrating.
Comming here and discussing/debating/arguiing with the folks here and playing the game is kinda like my therapy. or I'd probably be right there with her from this. And sometimes its hard not to

Tough road. I sympothise with you

BluKitty · « **Reply #33 on:** September 21, 2005, 12:43:25 AM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
Oh yeah... nothing like a critical self-evaluation to pull you out of a depression.

well if that's how you read it i'm sorry you see things that way.... it is a somewhat ambigous statement.

it's about getting your desires in order ... put your wants and dreams on the table.... and figure out how to get them.....

What else is there to life?

If you want a loveing lover, ok ... It might fill the 'void', but it might not..... it's about what Fubar wants out of his life. And yes, you need to examine things to figure that out, at least in my life.

I've seen people turn thier lives around after finding their 'soulmate'...... but not everyone.

You need to self examine or you or your Doc will never find the cause of depression.

The doc's that give you your meds aren't in your head ... you are.

Do you really think a little self reflection is bad?

BTW .. I thought about sticking my head in a unlit gas oven today.... I dismissed it as stupid and pointless very quickly ... but don't lecture me on depression while you've posted nothing helpful.

Nash · « **Reply #34 on:** September 21, 2005, 12:47:56 AM »

But it wasn't unhelpful.

Folks with depression talk too much with themselves in their head.

It is good advice: Just shut the hell up and do.

If you're depressed, the worst company is you. So quit talkin'.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #35 on:** September 21, 2005, 12:48:19 AM »

2 possible therapies:

Hypnosis helped this guy...

But this is probably a better option.
Lawrence's therapy

FuBaR · « **Reply #36 on:** September 21, 2005, 01:19:01 AM »

please keep the flames out of my thread. thanks.

BluKitty · « **Reply #37 on:** September 21, 2005, 01:22:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Nash
It is good advice: Just shut the hell up and do.

"Make your goals, and follow through."

are you talking to me or sand? Sure sounds like what I said in diffrant terms.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #38 on:** September 21, 2005, 01:28:10 AM »

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Originally posted by Nash
But it wasn't unhelpful.

Folks with depression talk too much with themselves in their head.

It is good advice: Just shut the hell up and do.

If you're depressed, the worst company is you. So quit talkin'.

very good point.
I know my wife does this. Her mind goes a mile a minute. worries about anythign and everything.
then starts self examining and tht makes her worse.
During her bad times she feels
Shes a terrible mother
Terrible wife
shes stupid
She beats heself up about being overweight

and no amount of reassurances helps.
She'll actually argue with me.
"But yes I am"

She says its like a freight train running through her head that just wont stop

Also she tends to hang out with people who are even more depressed then she is.
And while that might make some of her problems seem not so bad I am of the opinion that we often start to take on the persona of the people we hang out with.

Hang out with depressed and otherwise negative people and you yourself will tend to become depressed and negative.
Hang out with upbeat positive people and you will find yourself more up beat and positive.

FuBaR · « **Reply #39 on:** September 21, 2005, 01:28:47 AM »

I posted on here for my self hoping I could get some ideas or even help, If I wanted to be seeing flaming and pointless purse fighting, I would go to MA and ask for help...behave or be gone.

Glasses · « **Reply #40 on:** September 21, 2005, 01:35:52 AM »

Yo Fubie my dear lad force yourself to eat like 6 times a day 3 big meals and 3 small meals and get on a treadmill drink plenty of water during the day take some vitamins and start running.

I've felt depressed sometimes and this has helped me greatly there are some people that might need meds for a short period of time some don't, that doesn't neccesarily mean you have clinical depression it just means that the routine you might have at this time might not be the best, dont' sweat it about the gf when you graduate from HS the pootie metter will go off the scale you'll find a ghoul for you to eat and be eaten by

so don't sweat the small stuff.

This is my IMO anyhow. G luck!

Fustius!

Nash · « **Reply #41 on:** September 21, 2005, 02:00:40 AM »

It's a little bit different.

"Goals" are a total joke when you're depressed. You can't think long-term like that.

Because when you're depressed, the long-term seems worthless. Why take short-term steps if it only amounts to long-term worthlessness? That's what it's like.

So no....

What ya gotta do is... well it's sort of an instinctual type of thing that you gotta embrace. You just have to trust it. It's more about letting impulsiveness in - however uncomfortable it may feel at the time. And however futile it may seem. At this point, you just have to trust that a better life is possible. That's all.

Just entertain that idea, and go with it. When people ask you to go out... just say yes. Make it a law. Like a robot. Just say yes. Go out, however horrible that idea seems to you at the time. Throw yourself in and do it.

And fitness...again, just do it. Pain in the ass, yes. So what. Just go run or something. I mean, what do you gotta lose at this point, anyways?

Your mental health is like a muscle. You don't suddenly turn cars over.... it's gradual. Takes a bit of work.

But each day, throw yourself in. It will get easier the next day. And the next day? Even easier.

Pretty soon... you'll see what it is you have been making the effort for.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #42 on:** September 21, 2005, 02:02:20 AM »

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Originally posted by FuBaR
I posted on here for my self hoping I could get some ideas or even help, If I wanted to be seeing flaming and pointless purse fighting, I would go to MA and ask for help...behave or be gone.

Ignore the flamers.
If they havent been there they dont know.
Some people think its not real or its something you can just "snap out of"
Its not and it sucks.

One thing I do know or feel from personal observation is that sitting there by yourself thinking about it and non stop worrying about it only seems to make it worse not better.

the more you think about itthe more you worry about it and the more you worry about it the more you think about it

Like Nash said the worst company for someone suffering from depression is themselves.

Get out and do something.
Set goals and strive to acheive them.
Hang out with positive upbeat people.
And if you must talk to yourself
Try to stop beating yourself up and start telling yourself you" can" or your "going to" instead of you cant.
Eventually you will convince yourself you really can

Im sure there are things you've alwas wanted to do but havent simply because you "havent gotten around to it"

Well. Start doing them instead of just wanting to.
Doesnt have to be anythign major and probably shouldnt be at first. Start small and work your way up.
but go through thoose things one by one and start doing them.
Then you can say "Yes. I finally did it" and in that way you will have achived some success. And nothing helps confidence or attitude more then success. and it feeds on itself.
Instead of viewing setbacks as a possible way to fail. look at them as a new challange to conquor.

Look at the positives in your life and pay less attention to the negatives.
Hey, you woke up this morning didnt you?
See you've already had success. Now. what are you going to do next?

eventually you will see things really arent that bad.

Leslie · « **Reply #43 on:** September 21, 2005, 02:07:27 AM »

The exercise advice works pretty well. Feeling good does away with worrying too much about the everyday mundane things. Depression makes molehills into mountains.

Try not to deal with too many things at once. This can be overwhelming. Deal with priorities, but some things can wait. I used to feel bad about putting off 'til tomorrow what I could do today. Not anymore. I use this time to get a good night's sleep and wake up refreshed. Sleep is the best thing for getting rid of depression.

That and having something to look forward to doing that day, working on a project. I mention work because work, if I try to do the best I can and is something I enjoy, gives me a feeling of accomplishment. This is very important to my being happy.

One last thing and this is serious. Warriors often deal with severe bouts of depression. They worry about things that non-warriors don't think about. Whether you agree or not, dedicated AH players are a form of virtual warrior. I would say that there's a warrior spirit in anyone that plays this game. So could have something to do with it Fubar. I kinda mess up my schedule by playing AH during late hours and then not getting good sleep.

Edit:

Take care and Salute sir!

Les

Furball · « **Reply #44 on:** September 21, 2005, 02:07:27 AM »

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Originally posted by Russian
Exercise. Once body becomes happy, brain will follow.

Sounds stupid, but Russian is 100% correct. when you exercise your body releases endorphins (stuff that makes you happy).

http://www.healingsprings.com/ENDORPHINS.htm

Also, if you take up a sport/martial art, you will meet friends there. So you will be doing exercise, getting happy and socialising.

I know in our country one of the best ways of socialising would be to join a Football/Rugby/Cricket team.

As someone else has said.. GET OUT THE HOUSE! i was ill for about a year and stuck inside, and i felt pretty much as you describe. I got off my arse and got a job doing something that i knew i would enjoy.