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Offline ATA

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« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2005, 09:43:08 PM »
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Why don't you  take the time to research friendly fire incidents in WW2 before asking ignorant questions.

This is not something unique to the USAAF.

Oh,i'm sure if Reds atacked fellow Americans in WW2 we'd would know all about it,USA would make sure of it .

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« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2005, 09:46:47 PM »
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Oh,i'm sure if Reds atacked fellow Americans in WW2 we'd would know all about it,USA would make sure of it .


Those of us who have done some reading and learned a bit of history are well aware of the incidents.

They aren't hidden.

I think that was Bruno's point.

You have no knowledge of the Black pilots of the Tuskeegee Airmen, which is very common knowledge and then you imply that somehow we've hidden friendly fire incidents in WW2.

Me thinks you are pointing the finger in the wrong direction :)
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« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2005, 10:56:09 PM »
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You have no knowledge of the Black pilots of the Tuskeegee Airmen, which is very common knowledge and then you imply that somehow we've hidden friendly fire incidents in WW2.

Me thinks you are pointing the finger in the wrong direction :)

It is common knowledge for americans,but not for me,person who never saw black guy before moving to USA.
So please forgive me:cry

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« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2005, 11:07:11 PM »
so...

Did P-51s realy go head to head with VVS's ultimate fighter... La-7?

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« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2005, 11:11:06 PM »
Yes, exchange of insults "Runstang!" and "LAmers!" were the start of the bad blood between USA & USSR

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« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2005, 12:38:55 AM »
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Oh,i'm sure if Reds atacked fellow Americans in WW2 we'd would know all about it,USA would make sure of it .


Friendly fire incidents aren't hidden. There are far to many public examples (to many to list here) for that to be true. They happened on all sides and between co-belligerents / allies.

The problem with your questions is you don't seem to have the basic understanding of WW2 history. Your asking questions that appear more as trolls rather then serious (at least in wording).

Black pilots in WW2...?

Most folks on this forum don't have an issue with answering questions but some of what you seek can be found with a simple goggle search, that is if you are self-motivated enough to look.

If you are seriously interested I am sure folks will post some links to point you in the right direction. Or just search this particular section of the forum.

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« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2005, 12:47:23 AM »
timeout... im kind of lost

When Kozhedub retaliated by shoooting down P-51Ds, was he flying La-7 or La-5FN? DId thois incident occured in 1944 or 1945?

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« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2005, 05:57:54 AM »
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The problem with your questions is you don't seem to have the basic understanding of WW2 history. Your asking questions that appear more as trolls rather then serious (at least in wording).
 
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You absolutely right,i dont.Thats why i'm asking.
Again sorry if i sound childysh)stupid)

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« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2005, 08:51:14 AM »
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What the hell is up with USAF always atacking allies?


Well, do you remember Pokryshkin's first kill in June, 1941? He shot down a Su-2 attack plane, they were not informed about this new plane, all the information was classified. BTW, the pilot of that Su-2 survived and later became a Marshall of Aviation, his family name was Pstygo IIRC.

If you want a good reading in "alternative history" of WWII - try this one: http://www.fictionbook.ru/ru/author/anisimov_sergeyi/variant_bis/

In Anisimov's book "allies" arm nazis and attack Soviet troops in November 1944, formal "casus belli" was an above-mentioned attack on an airfield and armour convoy near Nish. The main assumption in a book is that USSR avoided the catastrophe of 1941. The navy part of the book (Soviet task force of "Soviet Union" battleship, "Kronshtadt" battle cruiser and "Chapayev" escort CV breaking through into Atlantic through Dutch straights and working on "allied" communications) is far from reality, but the rest is very good, much more realistic then "Red Storm Rising". Another book that will never get translated to English :( The final is sad: a resulting border after cease-fire is the same as in our reality, only costing millions of useless deaths...

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« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2005, 11:10:32 AM »
Thanks Boroda,very interesting

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« Reply #40 on: October 07, 2005, 01:16:41 AM »
slightly o/t (more fyi)

Over on TOCH Author Brian Cull (author / co-author of several books: example :Spitfires Over Malta) posted he is researching friendly fire incidents for a new book.

Follow the link to the thread:
 
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« Reply #41 on: October 07, 2005, 04:23:27 PM »
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....Pstygo...



(PST........Y........GO)
Pissed....why - go??



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