2 Norwegian coastguard inspectors kinapped

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Vulcan
Man I wouldn't throw a net at those russian trawlers, they look so fragile something like estels bad breath would be enough to send them down to join the Kursk on the seabed.

Looks like the Russians have joined NK in being just another 3rd world country trying to steal food.

Always nice to have a true intellectual drop in and straighten things out for us mere mortals.

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by Jackal1
Always nice to have a true intellectual drop in and straighten things out for us mere mortals.

Just fishing for cold war fossils, oh wait is this a fishery exlusion zone?

[Suave]

I'm curious to see how much radio equipment this fishing trawler has on it.

[Suave]

What I mean is that russian fishing trawlers sometimes carry surprisingly sophisticated radio equipment. Especialy those that like to play chicken with USN boats. Lol, an Elint trawler name Elektron.

[Charge]

"The first violation of Paris agreement (1920) was made at Jan 15 1951, when Norway included the demilitarised territory of Spitsbergen into the NATO controlled territory."


Is that true?!?!?

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Article 9

Subject to the rights and duties resulting from the admission of Norway to the League of Nations, Norway undertakes not to create nor to allow the establishment of any naval base in the territories specified in Article 1 and not to construct any fortification in the said territories, which may never be used for warlike purposes.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/other/dfat/treaties/1925/10.html

-C+

[Suave]

League of Nations ?

How can anybody be signatory to an organization that doesn't exist ?

[Charge]

"Norway claims an exclusive fishing zone of 200 nautical miles; Russia does not recognize this."

http://www.answers.com/topic/svalbard

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"Article 2

Ships and nationals of all the High Contracting Parties shall enjoy equally the rights of fishing and hunting in the territories specified in Article 1 and in their territorial waters.


Norway shall be free to maintain, take or decree suitable measures to ensure the preservation and, if necessary, the re-constitution of the fauna and flora of the said regions, and their territorial waters; it being clearly understood that these measures shall always be applicable equally to the nationals of all the High Contracting Parties without any exemption, privilege or favour whatsoever, direct or indirect to the advantage of any one of them."

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/other/dfat/treaties/1925/10.html

Now there is a thick soup...

Couldn't find the present day legistlation for use of fishing waters of Svalbard and I wonder if they resemble the old legistation at all?

-C+

"What I mean is that russian fishing trawlers sometimes carry surprisingly sophisticated radio equipment."

Have a tinfoil hat.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Rino
So how many agreements were signed by the post-USSR government?
I'm sure you could go back to Roman times and find documents if you
wanted/had to.  Doesn't mean they are valid now.

Russian Federation is a direct successor of the Soviet Union, and follows all the treaties and obligations accepted by the USSR.

JFYI, Russian Federation payed the debts made by Russian Empire, not only USSR, and we are a permanent member of UN SC, etc.

[Suave]

Really charge a tinfoil hat? I didn't realize that elint fishing trawlers were such a complete rarity. Of course I was never in a Naval Intellgence Sighting Team so I wouldn't be privy to such information as you are.

[straffo]

Originally posted by Boroda
JFYI, Russian Federation payed the debts made by Russian Empire, not only USSR, and we are a permanent member of UN SC, etc.

rotfl , certainly not !

It was more something like : you gave money to the tzar ,we give you a stamp ...used

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Suave
What I mean is that russian fishing trawlers sometimes carry surprisingly sophisticated radio equipment. Especialy those that like to play chicken with USN boats. Lol, an Elint trawler name Elektron.

This is what I thought could be one of the reasons for the whole comedy show.

[Jackal1]

So...anyone have any news links to this?

Did Gilligan kiss MaryAnn or what? :?

[Boroda]

Originally posted by straffo
rotfl , certainly not !

It was more something like : you gave money to the tzar ,we give you a stamp ...used

Straffo, in mid-90s Chernomyrdin's government payed hundreeds of millions to French obligation holders. It's a fact. If your grandma used her obligations as a wallpaper - it's her problem, not ours. At least we accepted this debts, while our "allies" in WWI simply kept the money that Russian Empire paid for weapons.

[AWMac]

There's nothing on CNN, USAToday, ect....about this.  WTF?

[Estel]

One interesting addition from 1920 agreement.

Article 10

Until the recognition by the High Contracting Parties of a Russian Government shall permit Russia to adhere to the present Treaty, Russian nationals and companies shall enjoy the same rights as nationals of the High Contracting Parties.


Claims in the territories specified in Article 1 which they may have to put forward shall be presented under the conditions laid down in the present Treaty (Article 6 and Annex) through the intermediary of the Danish Government, who declare their willingness to lend their good offices for this purpose.


This shows that we could use all of that without participation in agreement.