2 Norwegian coastguard inspectors kinapped

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by Estel
Because of due to agreement of cooperated using of Sptisbergen they should do it. And not only russian trawlers, but any others.

At least try to use search engines to find information. And try to learn international law. It will be very helpfull to you. Especially when you are trying to make such idiotical posts.

Yes.. International law says that Norway has the authority inspect uphold the law in this area. They inspect ships from all nations that fish there. They are basicaly the police that ensures that they do not use wrong nets to get fish that are below a sertain size and that they do not dump fish there.

[Estel]

Originally posted by Vulcan
Ahh so the Russians did agree to the fishing zone then?

Why are you contradicting yourself?

Did you use search engine? Looks no. Really sad.

Russia and Norway have agreement of cooperated using of Spitsbergen. For a lot of years. This is not only fishing. This is coal mines. This is other mining there. This is cooperated scince works and etc.

In 2001 Norway raised a problem. They denied the fishing in fishguard zone for all other participants in some seasons (really the seasons when you can make maximum fishing). In 2004 they denied fishing for Russia.

But. They can not deny or approve anything because of the agreement. And sure, they can not extrude any territory of Spitsbergen for their one (and alone) using. Because of Russia and other participants don't agree with Norway.

Is it clear to you? Or maybe I'll need to find info in english and send it to you?

[Estel]

Originally posted by Nilsen
Yes.. International law says that Norway has the authority inspect uphold the law in this area. They inspect ships from all nations that fish there. They are basicaly the police that ensures that they do not use wrong nets to get fish that are below a sertain size and that they do not dump fish there.

I don't know, is it true, but.... Our media said that "Thromso" opened fire when "Elektron" was allready in 200 zone of Russia. What was said by your media about it?

[Tarmac]

Viking pirates be a-boarding!  Harrrr!

[Nilsen]

Sorry for the bad map but in all the dark blue parts Norway is in charge of upholding international and Norwegian law. The company that owns the trawler may not agree, but your government does Estel so wha the company thinks about the situation really doesnt matter. They are to use a well known word... criminals.

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by Estel
I don't know, is it true, but.... Our media said that "Thromso" opened fire when "Elektron" was allready in 200 zone of Russia. What was said by your media about it?

KV Tromso has not fired warningshots yet.

[Estel]

Nilsen, would you so please to translate the tips on the map.

[Nilsen]

Fiskerisonen = fishery zone
Fiskerivernsonen = fishery protection zone
Norsk økonomisk sone = Norwegian economical zone

Internasjonalt farvann = international waters (the orange bit on the left'ish)
Gråsonen = gray area... were there are some disagreements (the gray bit on the right'ish)

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by Estel
Did you use search engine? Looks no. Really sad.

Russia and Norway have agreement of cooperated using of Spitsbergen. For a lot of years. This is not only fishing. This is coal mines. This is other mining there. This is cooperated scince works and etc.

In 2001 Norway raised a problem. They denied the fishing in fishguard zone for all other participants in some seasons (really the seasons when you can make maximum fishing). In 2004 they denied fishing for Russia.

But. They can not deny or approve anything because of the agreement. And sure, they can not extrude any territory of Spitsbergen for their one (and alone) using. Because of Russia and other participants don't agree with Norway.

Is it clear to you? Or maybe I'll need to find info in english and send it to you?

So why did they let them on the boat then?

Make up your mind.

[Nilsen]

The point is that ___both___ governments agree that the trawler has broken the law.

The trawler is running away because it does not want to be arrested so that the company that owns it has to pay a huge fine to get it back.

The unresolved issues regarding borders etc are _not_ relevant.

[Estel]

Originally posted by Nilsen
Fiskerisonen = fishery zone
Fiskerivernsonen = fishery protection zone
Norsk økonomisk sone = Norwegian economical zone

Internasjonalt farvann = international waters (the orange bit on the left'ish)
Gråsonen = gray area... were there are some disagreements (the gray bit on the right'ish)

Thanks alot. And.... Can you tell me one thing..... About Spitsbergen guard zone. It was established in 1977. As we know, USSR didn't agree with that. Now. Is it just fishguarding zone or it have economical zone status? Here I mean the point of Norway.

[Estel]

Originally posted by Vulcan
So why did they let them on the boat then?

Make up your mind.

Oh my God...... Do you really so stupid or you are kidding?

Originally posted by Nilsen

Yes.. International law says that Norway has the authority inspect uphold the law in this area. They inspect ships from all nations that fish there. They are basicaly the police that ensures that they do not use wrong nets to get fish that are below a sertain size and that they do not dump fish there.


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[Nilsen]

Estel

It is a fishery protection zone. The norwegian economical zone streches out 200nm from _mainland_ Norway.

[Estel]

Originally posted by Nilsen
The point is that ___both___ governments agree that the trawler has broken the law.  

I didn't found anything about this in our media. Only I found, it's that this is not a problem of the goverment, but the problem of the trawler owner.

And there is nothing about our trawler made something unlawful. Maybe you will tell me what did they do? And also, maybe you'll tell, why patrol officers withdrawn ships journals and sailors passports? This is something new in inspectors practice.

Edit from here: Also they withdrawn the certificate wich allows to use the russian flag (guess Nilsen will give correct word) on the ship. And this is really strange to me.

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by Estel
I didn't found anything about this in our media. Only I found, it's that this is not a problem of the goverment, but the problem of the trawler owner.

And there is nothing about our trawler made something unlawful. Maybe you will tell me what did they do? And also, maybe you'll tell, why patrol officers withdrawn ships journals and sailors passports? This is something new in inspectors practice.

As far as i have heard the size of the holes in the nets was too small so that they could get fish that was below minimum size. At first the captain agreed to the boat beeing taken under arrest, but the company sent him an order to not obey the coastguard and to head for russian waters with the inspectors onboard. I have not heard anything about journals or passports beeing taken, and that can because they have not or because it is standard prosedure when one is arrested.

ISTAR TASS gets all its info from the company that owns the trawler.

-edit- If I was arrested in Russia, or America for that matter I bet the police would take away my passport.. or?